djehuti Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Hi, I was wondering if anyone could make a simulation on the following: South: ♠JT93 ♥J432 ♦4 ♣Q874North: Balanced-semibalanced 15-17 , NO 5 cards MAJOR, NO 4♠ - 5♣. Any other 5-4-2-2 , 6-3-2-2 , 5-3-3-2, 4-4-3-2, 4-3-3-3. I want to know if its best to pass or bid 2 ♣ and over 2♦ , 2♥ pass correct. I already did a simulation but i dont have double dummy results and couldnt restrict the north hand as above :( Tks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 If you (not partner) like playing 7 card fits about half the time, go for it. fit prob6 7.7%7 44.4%8 47.9% Note that whenever partner bids 2♠ directly he'll play an 8 card fit, while much of the time he'll pass your 2♥ rebid with 3 hearts. contract prob avg fit2♠ 34.65% 7.552♥ 65.35% 7.23 Here are opener's most likely NT hands, and resulting contracts (sorted by decreasing probability) - hand rel prob contract fit3-3-4-3 6.75% 2♥ 73-3-5-2 4.63% 2♥ 72-3-5-3 4.63% 2♥ 73-2-5-3 4.63% 2♠ 73-3-3-4 4.50% 2♥ 73-4-3-3 4.50% 2♥ 84-3-3-3 4.50% 2♠ 82-3-4-4 4.34% 2♥ 72-4-4-3 4.34% 2♥ 83-2-4-4 4.34% 2♠ 73-4-4-2 4.34% 2♥ 84-3-4-2 4.34% 2♠ 84-2-4-3 4.34% 2♠ 82-2-5-4 2.97% 2♥ 62-4-5-2 2.97% 2♥ 84-2-5-2 2.97% 2♠ 84-4-3-2 2.89% 2♥ 84-2-3-4 2.89% 2♠ 82-4-3-4 2.89% 2♥ 83-2-6-2 2.31% 2♠ 72-3-6-2 2.31% 2♥ 72-2-6-3 2.31% 2♥ 64-3-2-4 2.02% 2♠ 84-4-2-3 2.02% 2♥ 83-4-2-4 2.02% 2♥ 83-2-3-5 1.93% 2♠ 72-3-3-5 1.93% 2♥ 72-2-4-5 1.86% 2♥ 63-3-2-5 1.35% 2♥ 72-4-2-5 0.87% 2♥ 82-2-3-6 0.55% 2♥ 63-2-2-6 0.39% 2♠ 72-3-2-6 0.39% 2♥ 7 Avg fit 7.40Sigma fit 0.63 I'm not sure if this means you should bid 2♣ Stayman or not (I assumed normal responses of only 2♦♥♠). These probabilities are exact calculations based on shape given your hand, but don't include the (minor) corrections for the given HCP range. The HCP correction probably makes the bad fits a tiny bit more likely since there are more diamond honors missing than other suit honors. For example, if you're hand is 4=5=x=x, Stayman and then pulling to 2♥ (pass/correct) works much better since you'll find the 4-4 spade fit and otherwise play in 2♥ most of the time. This has an average fit of about 8 which means it's probably a good idea (7.9+-0.7). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djehuti Posted November 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 TY very much Rob :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djehuti Posted November 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 i think it will be more difficult to get a simultation with double dummy results.. :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald_21 Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 I did a (limited) simulation with Dealmaster Pro/Deep Finesse and passing 1NT made 7 or more tricks in 32% of the cases. Trying to get to a major made 8 or more tricks in the major in 52% of the cases. In my sample in 52% of the cases there was a 44-fit, in 41% there was a 43-fit and in 7% a 42-fit. With a 44-fit 2M made in 77% of the cases and 1NT in 23%.With a 43-fit 2M made in 29% of the cases and 1NT in 40%.With a 42-fit 2M made in 1% of the cases and 1NT in 40%. Clearly to try and play in a major is a lot better than passing 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzalz Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 This is what I got for 2000 simulated deals. Major is the major that takes the most tricks so is probably on the optimistic side since you won't always get to the 'right' major. The first number is how many tricks you take. Also the strong NT is always declarer even though on some auctions responder will play 2H. notrump:9:13notrump:8:137notrump:7:439notrump:6:718notrump:5:532notrump:4:131notrump:3:26notrump:2:3notrump:1:1 major:11:2major:10:61major:9:335major:8:670major:7:664major:6:240major:5:27major:4:1 I was surprised how much better you seem to do in the major. Not only does it make more often, it more often makes overtricks, and less often goes down more than 1. Even with the bias in the results it seems clear to bid stayman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Wow, very interesting. I would have figured just from the degrees of fit that trying for a major fit that was only going to work half the time (and a level higher) would be a losing proposition. This seems not to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djehuti Posted November 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Ty Ronald and Pretzalz, really nice :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Here are some more numbers: Frequency Major vs NTs: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 Sum 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 4 0 0 0 1 0 3 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 5 0 0 0 0 8 12 15 12 1 0 0 0 0 0 48 6 0 0 0 2 6 47 67 44 6 1 0 0 0 0 173 7 0 0 4 5 19 68 125 70 17 0 0 0 0 0 308 8 0 0 0 3 18 80 104 68 24 2 0 0 0 0 299 9 0 0 0 2 3 25 63 26 16 0 0 0 0 0 135 10 0 0 0 2 1 3 12 4 5 1 0 0 0 0 28 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sum 0 0 4 15 55 238 390 225 69 4 0 0 0 0 1000 This table shows the number of double dummy tricks in a major (rows - horizontal) versus the number of double dummy tricks in notrumps (columns - vertical). I chose the major as follows: If the NT opener has four hearts then hearts declared by the opener; otherwise if the NT opener has four spades then spades declared by the opener; otherwise if the NT opener has three spades and two hearts then spades declared by the opener; and finally otherwise when the NT opener is 3-3 or 2-2 in the majors hearts declared by the responder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Thanks Wayne, this table is excellent. I especially like it since it agrees with my intuition :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 So if I understand Wayne's table correctly you do quite a bit better in a major, scoring more than one trick extra on average. Is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Here is a bigger sample with some more information. As well as the collated data I have broken the data down depending on: 1. Whether there is a heart fit - a 2♥ response to Stayman 2. Whether there is a spade fit - a 2♠ response to Stayman 3. No fit with opener passing responder's 2♥ 4. No fit with opener converting responder's 2♥ to 2♠ I am not sure this last option is generally value since responder might have five hearts and then it might be right to pass 2♥ even with a doubleton and three spades. 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3 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] 10000 FrequencMajor [space] vs [space] [space] [space]NTs [space] [space] - [space] [space] [space] heart [space] fit: [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 2 [space] [space] [space] 3 [space] [space] [space] 4 [space] [space] [space] 5 [space] [space] [space] 6 [space] [space] [space] 7 [space] [space] [space] 8 [space] [space] [space] 9 [space] [space] [space]10 [space] [space] [space]11 [space] [space] [space]12 [space] [space] [space]13Sum [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 1 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[space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space]13 [space] [space] [space]90 [space] [space] 297 [space] [space] 372 [space] [space] 188 [space] [space] [space]24 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] 986 [space] [space] [space] 9 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 7 [space] [space] [space]36 [space] [space] 130 [space] [space] 212 [space] [space] 129 [space] [space] [space]46 [space] [space] [space] 5 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] 566 [space] [space] [space]10 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 2 [space] [space] [space] 5 [space] [space] [space]12 [space] [space] [space]39 [space] [space] [space]22 [space] [space] [space]11 [space] [space] [space] 3 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] 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[space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] 2 [space] [space] [space] 3 [space] [space] [space]44 [space] [space] 206 [space] [space] 655 [space] [space] 817 [space] [space] 387 [space] [space] [space]91 [space] [space] [space] 9 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space]2214 FrequencMajor [space] vs [space] [space] [space]NTs [space] [space] - [space] [space] [space] heart [space] nofit: [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 2 [space] [space] [space] 3 [space] [space] [space] 4 [space] [space] [space] 5 [space] [space] [space] 6 [space] [space] [space] 7 [space] [space] [space] 8 [space] [space] [space] 9 [space] 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[space] [space] [space] 8 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space]1342 [space] [space] [space] 8 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 3 [space] [space] [space]13 [space] [space] [space]70 [space] [space] 169 [space] [space] 212 [space] [space] [space]97 [space] [space] [space] 6 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] 570 [space] [space] [space] 9 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 2 [space] [space] [space] 8 [space] [space] [space]23 [space] [space] [space]28 [space] [space] [space]16 [space] [space] [space] 3 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space]81 [space] [space] [space]10 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] 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[space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space]13 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 5 [space] [space] [space]21 [space] [space] 163 [space] [space] 689 [space] [space]1461 [space] [space]1113 [space] [space] 267 [space] [space] [space]27 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space]3746 FrequencMajor [space] vs [space] [space] [space]NTs [space] [space] - [space] [space] [space] spade [space] nofit: [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 2 [space] [space] [space] 3 [space] [space] [space] 4 [space] [space] [space] 5 [space] [space] [space] 6 [space] [space] [space] 7 [space] [space] [space] 8 [space] [space] [space] 9 [space] [space] [space]10 [space] [space] [space]11 [space] [space] [space]12 [space] [space] [space]13Sum [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 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[space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 3 [space] [space] [space] 5 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 8 [space] [space] [space]22 [space] [space] [space]19 [space] [space] [space] 7 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space]57 [space] [space] [space] 6 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 7 [space] [space] [space]19 [space] [space] 110 [space] [space] 134 [space] [space] [space]37 [space] [space] [space] 6 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] 314 [space] [space] [space] 7 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 2 [space] [space] [space] 4 [space] [space] [space]14 [space] [space] 100 [space] [space] 258 [space] [space] 168 [space] [space] [space]27 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] 575 [space] [space] [space] 8 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 5 [space] [space] [space]22 [space] [space] 112 [space] [space] 109 [space] [space] [space]56 [space] [space] [space] 3 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] 308 [space] [space] [space] 9 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 3 [space] [space] [space] 6 [space] [space] [space]14 [space] [space] [space]13 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space]38 [space] [space] [space]10 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 2 [space] [space] [space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 5 [space] [space] [space]11 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space]12 [space] [space] 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[space] 1 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space] [space] 0 [space] [space]1303 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 So if I understand Wayne's table correctly you do quite a bit better in a major, scoring more than one trick extra on average. Is that correct? yes. but you are also a level higher :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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