helene_t Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 P should have pulled the double of course. He knows opps are in a 9-card fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Please tell me that you are joking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Was that addressed to me, Han? If p is supposed to leave that dbl in, how should he be interpreting the double? Like "I have four good hearts which I overlooked at my first bid"? Or like "I have KJx of hearts and somehow feel that AQ is to the right of me (contrary to what the auction suggests)"? This can't be a clean penalty double, p is allowed to pull, and with a 100% pure hand and both pairs having a double fit, he should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 If p is supposed to leave that dbl in, how should he be interpreting the double? As "Since I have exactly what I have shown and what partner thinks I have (indeed better defense than I showed), I have no business pulling his doubles." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 I think 3♠ bidders are kidding themselves to say they won't end up in game. (...) I think 4♣ turned out to be right for the exact reasons that should have been expected. Well, and I think this is resulting. It is true that chances are 3♣ was made on a min, in which case 4♣ is correct, but it could have been on a fair hand as well, in which case you belong in game (or at least should move towards it). At mps, 4♣ might be right, but at imps I'm sure at imps we shd be in game. Anyway, a good-bad 2NT would definitely solve it all... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 I think 3♠ bidders are kidding themselves to say they won't end up in game. (...) I think 4♣ turned out to be right for the exact reasons that should have been expected. Well, and I think this is resulting. It is true that chances are 3♣ was made on a min, in which case 4♣ is correct, but it could have been on a fair hand as well, in which case you belong in game (or at least should move towards it). At mps, 4♣ might be right, but at imps I'm sure at imps we shd be in game. Anyway, a good-bad 2NT would definitely solve it all... lol. The WEAK hand helping bid toward a game? Who are you! Seriously if you think the actual hand was a min, good luck to you passing when you have the king of clubs less (assuming no conventions). It's also worth noting 4♣ doesn't bar partner. BTW how can you call it resulting, I chose and defended my bid before the actual hand was known. Pre-resulting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 EWRI-posting! (expect win, result immediately) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 The actual hand was clearly a maximum, and game wasn't a terrible place to be (better than pass or double). Game would have been the right spot if partner had the ♦AJ10 instead of the ♦AJx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 The actual hand was clearly a maximum, and game wasn't a terrible place to be (better than pass or double). Game would have been the right spot if partner had the ♦AJ10 instead of the ♦AJx. I apologize for the dumb question, but if South's clubs are the J982, is 5♣ really unmakable? Seems like they're ought to be a way to throw in West... But maybe not. I haven't found the way yet, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 It's also worth noting 4♣ doesn't bar partner. 4♣ is competitive. You know that. You could easily have an ace less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 It's also worth noting 4♣ doesn't bar partner. 4♣ is competitive. You know that. You could easily have an ace less.LOOOOOOOOLPard how could you bid game! You knew I would have xxx Axx xxx Jxxx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Wereagles, how could you bid 4C with an ace less. You have bid 1NT showing at least this much distribution and at least that much strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 lol dudes... of course you need a little more shape. cant u read between the lines? geez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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