mikegill Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=s76542h5daq6ck984]133|100|Scoring: MP1♣ p 1♠ p 1NT p 2♣ pp X ?[/hv] You choose to pull partner's 1N to 2♣. I don't care if you agree with this decision or not, you're stuck with it. Your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Now 2♠. It is important to shut out the hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yup, looks clear. I'm quite happy they protected, should mean we find the right strain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I would XX, expect it to go 2H X p p p and they go down a million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I'd pass, not having interest in competing and expecting them to have a decent shot to make 2♥X. Good problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I'm liking pass here slightly over redouble - the redouble might steer them into another strain. That, and if I bid 2♠ I get my just desserts doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I would XX, expect it to go 2H X p p p and they go down a million. huh? they have at least an 8 card fit and can easily have more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I would XX, expect it to go 2H X p p p and they go down a million. huh? they have at least an 8 card fit and can easily have more. I doubt partner will double if they have a 9-card or better fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I would XX, expect it to go 2H X p p p and they go down a million. huh? they have at least an 8 card fit and can easily have more. You have more than half the deck, they have at most 8 trumps when partner doubles them, and trumps aren't breaking well for them. Your diamond honors are located behind RHOs diamond length. I see no reason to think they will make if partner doubles them. Additionally you are playing MP and were almost surely cold for a partscore, so you have added reason to be doubling them. Additionally XX will encourage partner to bid 2S or 3C sometimes when he wouldn't have otherwise because he knows we have values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I doubt pard will bid 2S if he thinks you might only have 4 of them... but ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Redouble makes sense. This hand is very defensive. RHO couldn't come in over 1♣ and now decides to balance? 2♠ is vile on this suit. Its likely you are on a 5-2 or possibly even a 5-1 here. 3♣ is probably my second choice above a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 2♠ is vile on this suit. Its likely you are on a 5-2 or possibly even a 5-1 here. You didn't bid 2♠ over 1NT - surely partner will correct to 3♣ on any hand with a stiff spade? Some with a doubleton, too (2=3=3=5). Maybe I'm being pessimistic, but I don't think we are favourites to take 2♥ two off, and I don't think +100 out of 2♥ would be a great score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I don't think +100 out of 2♥ would be a great score. If we are setting it we should still double it if we're not going to compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I don't think +100 out of 2♥ would be a great score. If we are setting it we should still double it if we're not going to compete. Of course...but I am going to compete. That statement is justifying competing :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Redouble. One additional reason is that I have potentially way underbid this hand. If partner cannot double 2♥, I'm afraid that we might even have 5♣ coming in. I mean, in support of clubs, this hand is huge. I have what now appear to be three honor covers (the diamond situation seems to now not be wasted concentration but working finesse), plus well-placed shortness. A spade finesse, if needed, looks to be working. Give partner ♠AK ♦xxx ♥xxx ♣AQxxx, and 5♣ looks decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I can't make up my mind :) I'm really not high on redouble, 2♠, or 3♣, but I don't like passing either. I guess I'll bid 2♠, who knows they might even compete to 3♥. I hate to redouble and just get 100 when we had 110 available. I like this problem, it's an everyday sort of situation but still seems to be a very close call between at least three choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 2♠ is vile on this suit. Its likely you are on a 5-2 or possibly even a 5-1 here. You didn't bid 2♠ over 1NT - surely partner will correct to 3♣ on any hand with a stiff spade? Some with a doubleton, too (2=3=3=5). Maybe I'm being pessimistic, but I don't think we are favourites to take 2♥ two off, and I don't think +100 out of 2♥ would be a great score. Don't agree. Its MPs so why would we subject ourselves to a 5-2 even on a decent suit? Hopefully this pard likes to raise directly on 3 pieces. If we get to a spade fit, I think its pard that should be bidding spades now, not us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Give partner ♠AK ♦xxx ♥xxx ♣AQxxx, and 5♣ looks decent. If thats its hand, we'll at least compete to 3♣ after a xx as pard won't be doubling 2♥. The 2♠ bidders will play 2♠ which isn't that bad a spot but I'd rather be in clubs. If we pass, I suppose pard will still bid 3 clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 2♠ is vile on this suit. Its likely you are on a 5-2 or possibly even a 5-1 here. Only if you play american style, where 1NT might be a 1345 "unfit for rebidding clubs". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 2♠ is vile on this suit. Its likely you are on a 5-2 or possibly even a 5-1 here. You didn't bid 2♠ over 1NT - surely partner will correct to 3♣ on any hand with a stiff spade? Some with a doubleton, too (2=3=3=5). Maybe I'm being pessimistic, but I don't think we are favourites to take 2♥ two off, and I don't think +100 out of 2♥ would be a great score. Don't agree. Its MPs so why would we subject ourselves to a 5-2 even on a decent suit? Hopefully this pard likes to raise directly on 3 pieces. If we get to a spade fit, I think its pard that should be bidding spades now, not us. It's playing MPs that you do often want to be in 2M on seven-card fits...frequently there will be a trick more than in 1NT. Admittedly that's not that relevant here, where +140 in a 5-2 spade fit seems unlikely. Given that pard is likely to have four hearts, I can't see him showing delayed three-card support for spades when they attempt to play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Give partner ♠AK ♦xxx ♥xxx ♣AQxxx, and 5♣ looks decent. If thats its hand, we'll at least compete to 3♣ after a xx as pard won't be doubling 2♥. The 2♠ bidders will play 2♠ which isn't that bad a spot but I'd rather be in clubs. Only if they find a way to bar partner before they bid 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 2♠ is vile on this suit. Its likely you are on a 5-2 or possibly even a 5-1 here. Only if you play american style, where 1NT might be a 1345 "unfit for rebidding clubs". What's the difference, we already supported clubs so partner will never pass 2♠ with a singleton. 1345 is automatically unfit for rebidding clubs :) That's the style that will really get you to 5-1 fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 What's the difference, we already supported clubs so partner will never pass 2♠ with a singleton. true, true.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Interesting everyday hand.I redouble, but this is very close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I redouble. Several ways to win and only one way to lose. The alternatives: Pass: clearly awful, since partner is virtually forced to pass their inevitable 2♥ and now I am guessing 2♠: ok in a sense: better than passing, but this hand won't play well in spades opposite Qx and a likely 4-2 break 3♣: why should I assume partner has long clubs? If I do this, I deserve to find Kxx AQ10x Kxx xxx opposite. Redouble is 'wrong' only when partner doubles 2♥ and it makes (or goes for 100 when we have 110). In the meantime, redouble will get partner bidding 2♠ on 3 when he can stand 3♣ or 3♣ directly with a 5 card suit. It will also get him doubling when it is right to do so: Ax KJ10x xxx AJxx is a typical double and we rate to do well. Heck: Axx KJ10x J10x AJx.... yes, I am dreaming, but maybe rho is Kx Axxx Kxxx xxx... this shows how wrong any call than redouble is at mps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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