MickyB Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=e&s=st6432h764da54c85]133|100|Scoring: IMPPass-(1NT)-X-(XX) 1NT is 12-14, dbl is penalties, XX shows a 5+card suit and asks partner to bid 2♣. Do you pass or bid 2♠, which would show a very weak hand? If you pass, and it continues 2♣-P-P back to you, do you pass, bid 2♠ or double for takeout?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Would bid 2S immediately. Having passed showing values I imagine we are in a forcing pass. I would bid 2S now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted November 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 No, pass would be non-forcing...we haven't promised values yet, we would have had no need to bid on a 4333 three-count. 2♠ over 2♣ does sound like a better hand than this, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 No, pass would be non-forcing...we haven't promised values yet, we would have had no need to bid on a 4333 three-count. 2♠ over 2♣ does sound like a better hand than this, though. ok, don't really like the system but you just need agreements. I would say it's tough to make good agreements if pass is unlimited; some people just play you are in a force through 2H after Xing a weak NT (an agreement I do not like). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I would bid 2 Spade after the XX too. This shows wehre I live and makes it more difficult for them to find their fit. Why should I pass? Do I believe, that my pd has a juice pen. double on their 5 card suit? They have 7 + cards in a suit, I have at least two. So 2 Spade is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 yeah, an immediate 2♠ is the simplest action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 2♠ also in my methods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 2♠.My methods are that a direct bid shows a weak hand with direction, when responder's action is forcing on the 1NT opener. This hand is ok for me.Pass would not promise values, it could be a balanced 0-count. After opener's escape, take-out doubles and in principle forcing passes to 2♥. This means that responder is allowed to pass out a worthless hand, but responder's pass in a sequence like1NT - x - xx - p2♣ - p - 2♦ - p! is forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Would bid 2S immediately. Having passed showing values I imagine we are in a forcing pass. I would bid 2S now. Huh, I thought the pass of the XX showing balanced-or-values was standard. Shows what I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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