Hog the contract, or not?

[helene_t]

Game all, board 7/10 of BBO TM, trailing by 15 IMPs. Decent p and opps but some weird things seem to happen at the other table. Csaba, Lynne, Rona and Mat are kibbing so you'd better do your best.

 

(2♥)-2♠-(3♥)-3N

(Pass)-?

 

KJT974

4

KQ975

9

[mikeh]

pass, and hope the diamond suit will yield the necessary tricks.

 

Even if we'd have bid 4♦ over 2♥ with a big 5+/5+ ♠/♦ hand, surely 4♦ is forcing and we really have no business inviting a high-level diamond contract. 4♠ is the other obvious choice, and I just don't like it.. it is a ten trick contract where partner's club suit may be of no real help. It might work, but this is a case of '3N ends (almost) all auctions'. If I held KJ109xx x AKxx xx, as an example, then I'd bid 4♠.

[Halo]

4D

 

It's what I'd do. Can I ignore the fact that I have a very distributional hand.

[skjaeran]

Pass.

I'm not comfortable pulling this, neither to 4♦ nor 4♠.

4♦ is surely forcing, and I don't think Ï can underwrite forcing to 4♠/5+♦.

We can easily have 4 top losers in a ♠ contract and 3 in a ♦ contract and have 9 quick tricks in NT. Nothing is certain, but I think we stand a better chance in 3NT than the alternatives.

[Guest Jlall]

I'd pull it, 3N just doesn't seem like the right spot with this hand and partner will often bid it with 1 stopper hands. I would bid 4S as my spades are playable opposite a stiff (maybe? lol), and I have no aces so 5D is not an appealing contract.

[ArtK78]

I bid 4♦.

 

It is not unreasonable on this auction that partner has 3 bullets and some diamonds. In that case, 6♦ could be a claim.

 

Aside from that, it is not unlikely that game in one of my suits is cold and 3NT could go down.

 

One could construct a lie of the cards where 3NT is the only making game, but it would be hard.

[Edmunte1]

i"ll bid 4♠

[whereagles]

4♦ or 4♠, depending on who pard is.

[pclayton]

4♦ but I added 4♠ is close. Communications in 3N could really be ugly.

[mike777]

4s I am 6-5 yes?

 

If partner bid 3nt on a running club suit...I may not like this.

[Codo]

4 ♦

I doubt that pd has just a stopper and a running club suit. He can bid 3 Club with that. So he has a semibalanced hand with no spade support, but if he is not 1426, my hand will often play better in a suit then in NT.

[helene_t]

I passed. P had

Q

AQx

Jxxx

KJxxx

 

Got a spade lead, hearts back (declarer stepped up), on the diamond preemptor stepped up and played a ♣ through to his partner's ace, ♥ back. -400.

 

Somehow our teammates collected 1700 so we won the match anyway. Not sure if 4♠ would have made, they might get a ♦ ruff.

 

Btw, I'm curious about those who voted that 2♠ was too revolting. I thought it was a wtp bid.

[andy_h]

4S.

[keylime]

4♦. Clearcut to me. I'm highly offensive, and pard has found a call here. Pard can be on plenty of hands here so need to give them leeway.

[mike777]

2s and then 4d seems like alot of freebid and suit shifting calls vul with this hand. I know I am point counting but don't points count when we are aceless and partner has not promised a big hand. We seem to be doing most of the bidding and shifting suits here, not partner.

 

In other words when partner has not promised a big hand, it seems making vul freebids and on top of that another freebid in a new suit at the 4 level would show more?

[mgoetze]

Btw, I'm curious about those who voted that 2♠ was too revolting. I thought it was a wtp bid.

I thought if you are going to bid 2♠ you need to explain why you prefer it to 4♦, on the assumption that everyone ought to be playing Leaping Michaels here.

[helene_t]

We had not agreed Leaping Michaels (I agree that it's a good idea, though).

 

Anyway I'm not sure if this hand is good enough for LM.

[Guest Jlall]

2S is very normal

[pclayton]

Just not enough tickets for a Leaping Michaels call. 2♠ is OK.

[keylime]

Loser count is about right for Leaping Michaels, but need some aces. I like 2S a lot here.

[han]

Agree that the hand is not nearly good enough for leaping Michaels, 2S is normal.

 

I don't agree with mike777 that the problem is that 4D shows a much better hand. I think the problem is that you may not make 5D on some hands where partner will bid that and you can make 4S.

[Apollo81]

I'd pull, it just feels wrong to pass.

[whereagles]

I thought it was a wtp bid.

I think so too :)

[Guest Jlall]

Agree that the hand is not nearly good enough for leaping Michaels, 2S is normal.

 

I don't agree with mike777 that the problem is that 4D shows a much better hand. I think the problem is that you may not make 5D on some hands where partner will bid that and you can make 4S.

Like the hand that partner actually held

[Codo]

Agree that the hand is not nearly good enough for leaping Michaels, 2S is normal.

 

I don't agree with mike777 that the problem is that 4D shows a much better hand. I think the problem is that you may not make 5D on some hands where partner will bid that and you can make 4S.

Like the hand that partner actually held

But you will never reach 4 Spade in real life opposite a partner with

Q

AQx

Jxxx

KJxxx

 

But 5 Diamond is nicer then 3 NT and after a heart lead. you are home.