Guest Jlall Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 xx QJ9xxxx x xxx. 1C on your left, 2N by pard (reds 5-5+), 4S on your right. White/white rubber. What is your bid? (yes this did happen). If you bid 5H and they bid 5S, what is your plan? What about if they bid 6S? If you bid 6H and they bid 6S, what is your plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 I'd rather bid 5♦ or pass. Bidding ♥ looks like pushing them to slam (but this is something we might actually want if p has ♦A)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 5♦. I'll begrudgingly convert the double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 I am confused by the 5♦ bids. What is the point of this call? Why should we bid our singleton rather than the suit where we have a 12-card fit? Keep in mind that we are the ones on lead against six spades. I'll go with 6♥, pass 6♠, lead a diamond. It seems possible that partner has the ♦A or can otherwise set the slam via diamond tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 We probably have 1 diamond trick against a spade contract, but I really doubt we can make 2. I'm going to pass now and bid 7♥ if they decide to bid a slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 I like 6♥. 5♦ is too clever for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Pass - it is rubber bridge, after all. If they have slam, let them find it by themselves. In the meantime, I won't give them a choice to collect an easy +800.I mean, so far they haven't even made 4S, and if partner holds the two aces for his bid they might not make it. I have no other plan but to pass and try to beat what they bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Many run-of-the-mill rubber players are going to be happy with their game at white. Just pass. 6♥ at any other form of scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 I bid 6H. Winston, you hold 7 hearts (7!) so partner's heart ace won't hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 I was tempted by pass, since rho may have extras, LHO may fear RHO stretched, and so on: often times the opps are both heavy for their calls and are catering to either being light. However, we know that LHO has a stiff or void heart: if he has a void, then it is highly unlikely that he will pass even with a minimum. Bidding 5♦ is also tempting, not because of lead issues (we will probably be on lead) but because it may cause the opps to misplace cards on the auction: LHO with Kxx in diamonds may get carried away feeling that partner is marked with a stiff, and so on. But that requires quite a parlay, and may get partner not cashing his second diamond trick after we make that lead... after all, why should he play us, rather than declarer, for short diamonds? either 5 or 6♥ rates to be best, but I don't know how we choose between them. I am going to bid 5♥, because I will pass 5♠. If they bid 6♠ (presumably after LHO bids 5♠ or 6♥ or makes a forcing pass), I will let them play there. What persuades me it that we have a chance for a plus against 6♠, and I think there is too much risk of -500 by bidding 6♥. I am not a rubber bridge player, and I don't know the percentages well enough to be comfortable, but if they make slam after a ♦ lead, then I suspect we are 800 in 6♥ and that can't be a good result, even compared to allowing them to make the first game and a 500 slam bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Some comments:1) It's a 5 to 1 chance (83%) that partner holds ♥A, so, except a club uppercut , we'll lose maximum 4 tricks in our ♥ contract2) Opener has surely 5+♣ (holding maximum 1♥ and opening 1♣), so clubs is a secondary suit for opps.3)Frequenty if 6♠ makes, 7♠ will make too, due to the club suit (we'll ruff ♦ or if partner has a stopper in ♣, when he'll get the hand in clubs, possibly will cash the ♦ trick)4) I prefer on this kind of boards to use ''put opps to take the last guess'' tactic. So my bid will be 6♥. Why? I can live with small loses (going 2 down in 6 ♥ instead of 1 in 5♥ or writing +50 in 5♠), but winning when, due to lack of space:-opps play 6♠ instead of 7-opps doubling us for 1-3-500 instead of their cold slam-opps bidding 6♠ and going down (i'll pass 6♠ obiously)-opps bidding 7♠ and going down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 6H KISS Will try and win match on another deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 It is impossible to sensibly answer this question unless you know the other the other rubber bridge players and their tendencies. Playing against a strong player eg Michael Courtney, Gunnar Hallberg et al, a 5D bid is just plain foolish. Playing against known weak players, 5D might be a good play. Against unknowns I pass and wait to see what happens, (if anything.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 I would bid 5 Heart and let them guess. I am afraid that they will guess right too often if I bid 6 Heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 I'd bid 5♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) After thinking about this hand a little I like 6H planning to pass 6S. It puts the most pressure on and is where I am willing to bid to. The only downside is that I may have been able to buy it in 5 but that seems remote when I hold this. edited a typo Edited October 30, 2007 by Jlall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I doubt those that bid 6♥ here have EVER played rubber bridge. You are conceding 300 - 500 above the line at best, and they might might an inspired guess and bid a 6 we can't beat. Most of the time, they'll take their 120 below, and hope for the rubber on the next deal. I can respect 5♥. It looks like 300 max and could be a cheap 100 against their game on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 300 or 500 against their game is totally fine. They can not have it both ways with their "inspired guess," sometimes they are going to go down when they try it which is very good. They are much more likely to get to the right contract over FIVE hearts when they can bid either 5 or 6 spades as opposed to when their only option is to bid 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburn Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I like 6H planning to pass 4S.Si la jeunesse savait, si la vieillesse pouvait... et si la loi permettait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I like 6H planning to pass 4S.Si la jeunesse savait, si la vieillesse pouvait... et si la loi permettait. If only old has beens were not so oblivious to very obvious typos (don't know how to say that in french). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburn Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I like 6H planning to pass 4S.Si la jeunesse savait, si la vieillesse pouvait... et si la loi permettait. If only old has beens were not so oblivious to very obvious typos (don't know how to say that in french).Nor in English, it seems, for it should be obvious to all but the obnoxious that if I had been "oblivious" to the obtuse typo, I would not have obtruded my objection thereto. Should you remain obdurate, I can only refer obliquely to the obscure observation that "Ob-la-di, ob-la-da, life goes on..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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