Al_U_Card Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Playing 2/1 and thus forcing NT, what does 1 ♥ - p - 1NT - p - 4♦ show by opener? (Other than a desire to put pard to a guess.... ;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I have never heard this sequence. Unless one has put a conventional meaning to it, it must be natural - at least 6-5, probably 6-6, clearly forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Must be a one-suiter that has something to say about diamonds. Maybe an auto-splinter, that's what it means in one of my partnerships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Most play this as an autosplinter. Typically shows a hand just short of a 2♣ opener with values to play game opposite a minimum 1N response. It invites further bidding if responder has a suitable hand facing diamond shortness. Once upon a time, this showed a big 2 suiter, but the only pairs that usually play this are strong clubbers. Check with your partner what 1♠ - 1N - 4♥ means. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Auto-splinter is standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 selfsplinter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djehuti Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I play it as a good 11-14's 6-5 or 6-6. Over 1 ♠ , 4♣♦♥the same. but dont know what is standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I play this auction as a one suiter, self splinter, strong slam try, forcing to 4♥ (hearts are good for one loser at most on this auction for me). I searched through one large BridgeBrowser Database and found this specific auction occurred 44 times. Seven times the 4D bidder held a void (five different deals). On four of the five deals, the 4D bidder had a one suiter, the other it was a 3 suiter (4-5-0-4) 12 times, the 4D bidder had a singleton (12 unique deals). Once it was a doubleton with a one suited heart hand Once it was tripleton AQJ on a 3-5-3-2 hand with Kxxxx in hearts the rest of the world opens 2NT It was never a four card diamond suit 15 times it was a five card suit (14 unique hands) 8 times it was a six card suit (4 unique hands). So 17 times it was a splinter, 18 times it was a two suiter. Not sure if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 So 17 times it was a splinter, 18 times it was a two suiter. Not sure if that helps. In SAYC or 2/1, I would interpret it as an autosplinter. Playing Precision, I would say it was a *weak* two suiter, with at least 12 cards in the two suits. The reason why you'd want to bid such a hand so high should be obvious. It can't be an autosplinter because, well, hands that strong should open 1 club. Mostly. I can't say it's ever come up for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I would not dream of suprising my partner with that bid, since we have never talked about it. If he did it to me (he wouldn't) I would guess it was a diamond control, most likely splinter, and a wish to investigate the heart slam. Btw, Inquiry, where can we find that BridgeBrowser Database? Sounds like an interesting way to spend a couple of hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I have always assumed an autosplinter/selfsplinter. As I consider the case, however, I wonder if a better meaning might not be the sole meaning never found on bridgebrowser, namely a four-card diamond suit (with solid hearts). That auction would parallel the auction 1♣-P-1M-P-4♣. I would imagine that this might be of greater utility, as it might have a better chance of enabling the discovery of a slam, when the four-card suit hits a fit. Just a musing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Btw, Inquiry, where can we find that BridgeBrowser Database? Sounds like an interesting way to spend a couple of hours. http://www.microtopia.ca/bridge/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Yes, autosplinter. Against sleepy opponents you could agree that it shows a hand that would like to play 4H from partners side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Yes, autosplinter. Against sleepy opponents you could agree that it shows a hand that would like to play 4H from partners side. Does that indicate that Arend is the better declarer in your partnership? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Auto splinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Yes, autosplinter. Against sleepy opponents you could agree that it shows a hand that would like to play 4H from partners side. Does that indicate that Arend is the better declarer in your partnership? :P It does not. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 auto-splinter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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