jdeegan Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sa852h953dcq105432]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦-Dbl-Pass-????[/hv] :) Simple problem, but so many choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 2C, hope to bid spades later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 2♠, hope to bid clubs later :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted October 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 :P Isn't the north hand a little too good for a non-jump reponse? The diamond void could be HUGE. The actual hand: [hv=d=w&v=n&n=skq107hakj107dq97cj&w=sj96hq2daj10863ca9&e=s43h864dk542ck876&s=sa852h953dcq105432]399|300|Scoring: IMP1♦-Dbl-P-1♠2♦-2♠-3♦P-P-P[/hv] 3♦ down one was not a success as a vul game was available in either major suit. I was the hapless north. Personally, I don't mind doing the bidding for both sides of the table, some say it's the best feature of my game. Just let me know what the ground rules are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Interesting hand. I don't like the initial double. While there are hands where I would double with 4-5 in the majors, I prefer 1H when I have shortness in the unbid minor. I prefer 2C with the southhand. I don't think the hand is good enough for 2S but it is likely that 2C doesn't end the auction. If I can bid a free 2S next then that gives a pretty accurate description of this hand as with 4-5 I would usually bid spades first. Having bid 1S initially south needs to make another call in this auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Agree with Justin, I'd respond 2♣ too. Also agree with Han, I'd overcall 1♥ with the north hand rather than double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Late to the scene here. 2♣ looks clear to me. Even without looking at the hand diagram, the obvious question is "where are the diamonds"? We are void and pard is supposedly short. LHO either has a lot of diamonds, or pard is rather strong. Bottom line - we are going to get another shot at this hand and we can afford to show our suits. I don't care for double with a 4=5=3=1 15 count, but this is partly a matter of style. Its also strange for RHO to pass the double with ♦Kxxx / ♣K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted October 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 :P I can't argue with those who would have overcalled 1♥ the first time - it seemed close to me - only the J10 of ♥ and other good spot cards convinced me that doubling first, then bidding hearts over partner's club response was the lesser of two evils. Justin's non-jump 2♣ response works out OK. The bidding will go 2♣-2♦-2♥ (by me), and we are off and running to our vul game. As to why responder sandbagged his two kings and 4 card diamond support, I have no idea. It was a BBO pairs game, and my supposed 'Advanced' pick up partner (from ACBL territory) did most things well enough, just not this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 ;) I can't argue with those who would have overcalled 1♥ the first time - it seemed close to me - only the J10 of ♥ and other good spot cards convinced me that doubling first, then bidding hearts over partner's club response was the lesser of two evils. Justin's non-jump 2♣ response works out OK. The bidding will go 2♣-2♦-2♥ (by me), and we are off and running to our vul game. As to why responder sandbagged his two kings and 4 card diamond support, I have no idea. It was a BBO pairs game, and my supposed 'Advanced' pick up partner (from ACBL territory) did most things well enough, just not this one. Your adv pickup PD's pass of 3♦ is simply very poor with that hand. As for 1♥ vs dbl, I don't mind doubling, but you risk getting buried by PD in ♣ or that PD may think you have more when you rebid 2♥ showing a hand too good to overcall. However, after overcalling 1♥ you may lose the ♠ suit. That being said, I slightly prefer to overcall. I'd respond 2♣ to the double with PD's hand. Your PD gets the blame on this hand as passing out 3♦ is awful. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 1. I prefer 1♥ to double (What would you bid if partner responds 3♣ to your t/o?).2. Over double 2♣a and hope to bid some spades later.3. Passing 3♦ instead of bidding game is just poor bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Herbert Herbert Herbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 I'm even later than Phil :P I truly hate the double. And one reason I hate it is that this seems to be a clear 2♣ call... since my shortness in diamonds combined with my modest high card count lead me to expect to have a chance to bid 2♠ next (as do others, of course). That would be a near perfect description of my hand, but partners who double with that North hand don't allow their partners to play bridge. If double is the systemic bid, then 1♠ has to be the systemic response, and that just seems sooo wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 I also hate double. Prefer an off-shape 2♦ Michaels call or 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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