gwnn Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 you deal, favorable imps x Jx QJTxxxxx Kx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Director!! only 12 cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Director!! only 12 cards. argh i suck. 1282 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 looks like a completely standard 4D opener, what am I missing? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 looks like a completely standard 4D opener, what am I missing? :lol: Favorable with an 8-card suit? I would try 5♦, no strong opinion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 I'd open 5♦ is I were the weaker team, and 4♦ if I thought we had an edge. The suit isn't great and 8221 is a cousin of 7222. Change the hand a little for the better and I open 5♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Obviously I cannot argue that 5D sucks in any ways but general thinking since we're talking about how high to preempt but: 5D is very committal and will rarely induce the opponents to bid something other than getting doubled. With 6.5 tricks (jlall trick count) I really don't want to concede a likely 500 or unlucky 800 into what may not even be a game. Partner's shape and defense are unknown, we have a potential defensive trick, and it just seems presumptuous to think they will make 4M. Of course this argues against all preempts, but I would much rather open 5 on a nice offensive 7-4 or 8320 or even this shape with a better suit. If we have a good save partner is still in the game after 4D and we haven't lost a ton unless they get to 5M instead of doubling us for 300 (ie 4D-4H-5D-5H instead of 5D-X-p-p-p). I just don't think this hand, which lacks the offense necessary for such a big bid and has some defense, is the right hand to go so big. Also I think it's "normal" to open a hand with 1 less diamond 3D, even if you add a club in it's place. In general I think 1 extra trump should generally mean opening 1 level higher, not 2. tbh I would much rather open 3D than 5D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 looks like a completely standard 4D opener, what am I missing? :lol: Nothing, as far as I can see.Clear 4♦ IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 4♦, what Justin said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 4♦ seems right to me (Systemically, I have to open 3NT to show a 4-level minor suit preempt, as 4 of a minor is Namyats), but I know that my regular partner would open 5♦ (Maybe 8♦, since he opened 4♠ last night in IMP pairs on AQxxxx). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Fore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I'm for 4♦. 5♦ for me shows quite a bit better hand. 5♦ down a bunch is rarely good as often they will not be able to make anything. Therefore I like a shot at making 5minor opposite a fairly ordinary (not bad) dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Fore! But is that par? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 4♦ if I could, but I play Namyats, and 3NT shows AK/AQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 canonical 4D to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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