jdeegan Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 :P In your opinion, what is the best bid?[hv=d=e&v=b&s=s8765hq1096daj86c4]133|100|Scoring: IMPP-P-P-1♣DBL-???[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 One Heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zasanya Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1 ♦.Reasons:1)It is my best suit. 2)1♦ is passable for most partners. 3)The 1 ♣ doubler always has atleast 4 in both majors.May not have 4 cards in ♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnszsun Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1♥.If you bid 1♦ first, your major fit may be lost. For examle, LHO may bid 2♠. I think that's one reason of adopting walsh style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1H. Why is this a question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1H. Looks normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1♥, disagree with zasanya in all his 3 points. Its not the best suit (it is hearts) 1/1 is 100% forcing, and the only inference from the doubler is that he might have 5 ♦ but not 5M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hi, 1D for me, but 1D is certainly not theanswer to your question. I would bid the same as without the intervention,but since the chances that the opponents intervene is fairly high, I would say 1H is clearlybetter than 1D. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1♠ for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1D for me.I don't play 1/1 as "100% forcing" by a passed hand.If we have a major suit game on I would expect to be able to find the fit.If we have only a partscore on I am no more worried about missing a major fit than a minor fit (at MP it might have been different).I might be swayed otherwise if partner would open 1D in preference to 1C on a lot of hands with 4 Diamonds.But on balance I don't expect any choice to have much of a long term gain. Of course anything can be right on a specific occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I don´t see a reason to bid now. I do not understand why I should play the same system after double then after pass. If I would bid a suit, it would be a 5 card suit. I doubt that it has much sense to introduce a 4 card suit after rho "promised" length in the majors. If his double is passed to partner, he will sit it with 5 clubs or XX with less. Then I can introduce my hearts. But as I am in a very small minority, the majority may enlighten me: What are the reasons to bid a four card suit now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1♥ obv. Even if you are a player who would normally have bid 1♦ instead, after the double the risk of losing a heart fit to spade bids by the opponents is too great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I continue (and seem destined to continue) to be amazed at the variety of answers to simple problems. I can understand 1♦, altho I would never choose it. I cannot understand pass. We have a reasonable hand, for a passed hand, and we may have game in hearts, notrump, diamonds or even spades.. and we are going to pass as our first move? 1♠ completely mystifies me. Just how are we ever finding hearts now? And even if partner is able to reverse, just how informative has our auction been when we raise hearts after bidding xxxx first? And if partner doesn't reverse...say he bids 2♣... are we really going to show a 5 card spade suit by now bidding a red suit???? 1♥ seems trivial....obvious... no second choice... wtp... clear.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph23 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1♥. Bidding a 4 card ♦ suit here is for the birds.... partner doesn't have ♦ when he opens 1♣. Not in my partnerships, anyhow. If he has 4♦, then he also has 5♣ and is strong enough to reverse, so I'm not worried about missing a ♦ fit. With such a weak hand, need to bid the ♥s right away and speak my peace quickly. Yes, there are hands that I would pass as responder after a double by my RHO, but would bid after RHO passes, but this isn't one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I'll bid 1♦, normal bid in my up-the-line style. There is no particular reason opponents have to have a big spade fit -- I have four of them after all. And even if they do bid 1♠ or 2♠ on my left, we play takeout doubles by opener which should enable us to find hearts. If I bid 1♥ right away, we will have trouble finding our diamond fit with opponents passing. It's fairly likely that this is a partscore hand after all, and I want to find our best spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Sry, i didn't saw the right question. 1♥ is normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zasanya Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1♥, disagree with zasanya in all his 3 points. Its not the best suit (it is hearts) 1/1 is 100% forcing, and the only inference from the doubler is that he might have 5 ♦ but not 5MIs Q109X better than AJxx?Always thought the majority play 1/1after a to dbl by RHO as Non Forcing.Always thought that a double of 1 ♣ more or less promises both majors.If we have a game in ♥ surely P will have another bid.Meanwhile it seems proper to suggest a good lead.Or are we sure hand belongs to us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 1♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted October 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 :( For some reason at the virtual table (BBO) I had second thoughts about making the 'normal' 1♥ call, and I wanted to see if it was warranted or 'just me'. Looks like it was mostly 'just me'. Still ....................? :( 1. I think I prefer a diamond to a heart lead against an opponents' spade contract. 2. I'd rather pick off the opponents' putative diamond suit than their heart fit since they might stretch for the game bonus in hearts, and we can get fat with a double. 3. Bidding 1♦ won't preclude our bidding a makable 4♥ game. This was the actual situation. Partner held: A9A872K9AKJ92 4. If partner has a distributional club-diamond hand, I need to get the diamonds in early. I hate to obsess over these kind of 'bread and butter' bidding situations, but they do tend to come up more frequently than the more interesting and exotic ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I'll bid 1♥ with everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 This looks absolutely trivial to me.Automatic 1♥, never considering any other call. (Of course I'd bid 1♦ with one of my regulars since transfers apply.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 What are the reasons to bid a four card suit now? Unluckily, I still got zero reasons WHY all of you bid.So I repeat my questions just in case you did not tak it serious. It was. What are the upsides of bidding 1 Heart in this situation compared to passing with 4 card suits and bidding just 5 card suits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 What are the reasons to bid a four card suit now? Unluckily, I still got zero reasons WHY all of you bid.So I repeat my questions just in case you did not tak it serious. It was. What are the upsides of bidding 1 Heart in this situation compared to passing with 4 card suits and bidding just 5 card suits? You can find your four-four fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 What are the reasons to bid a four card suit now? Unluckily, I still got zero reasons WHY all of you bid.So I repeat my questions just in case you did not tak it serious. It was. What are the upsides of bidding 1 Heart in this situation compared to passing with 4 card suits and bidding just 5 card suits? You can find your four-four fits. And some nice 4-3 fits too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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