keylime Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I have an idea. Could it be programmed that during tourney play, a dummy can NOT talk in open chat after trick one? I'm hearing a lot of complaints about dummy telling declarer to claim, when declarer is not aware that he/she can claim as of yet, thus infringing on the Laws. Thanks :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Even after right the lead is soon enough to be muted imo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Well... sometimes when dummy in early rounds you are still hammering out your system with your partner... not everyone has steady partnerships like you dwayne... . :D But on the other hand, there is entirely too much dummy comments... I agree... So if this is going to be implimented... only during tournments, not open room play. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherwiz Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 If dummy is surpressed (muted) during a tournament perhaps it should be linked to the Kib'ers ability to talk with players. If Kib'ers can then the dummy sure should. If we want to go to that far why not do like True "live" play where the dummy can not see opps hands ? It does seam to advoid a lot of complaints from players. Perhaps more concern should be given to "innocent" things the dummy can say during play that might give the declarer a second thought. On the other hand I am willing to put up with that chance if the table can become "more social" with a friendlky conversation. Half of the time I would not mind an early call for CLAIM if the tricks are 100% certain. After all I (and.or my partner) can always refuse it. Besides, by the real "law" if the hand can be played in any shape or form that obeys the instructions given for a claim so it goes down - it must be played that way. However we do not seam to use that rule much here. There is almost never an explaination given with the claim but the ability is there to do it very easy. For another thing, I personally do not like to claim untill I have all Trump left, well maybe a few Aces/Kings or a handfull of what both opps are out of if trump is pulled would do it too. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiralscan Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Would agree that this should only take place in tournaments but also that if it's implmented perhaps it would be best if dummy could not see all the cards. I was recently playing in a tournament and received an average minus for not completing because dummy said CLAIM when there was an obvious trick still out if declarer played it wrong. The play was not at all obvious and required a finesse to make - therefore I would be in support of such a move during tournament play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Maybe the fix is worse than the cure. I mean online bridge should be made as social as possible to overcome the isolation of staring at a computer screen for hours on top of hours. So after thinking about it... maybe, what we should have is a strick rule that DUMMY can not comment on hand or play while play is in progress.. .no glp, no "claim", no wdp or vwdp until the last trick is over, with penalty and sanctions if this occurs. But on the otherhand, I often wonder what is going on at the table when opponents start typing in greek or dutch during play, and I suspect if they can't read english, they might wonder what I am saying during the play when I type in english. As a kibitizer, I have observed on more than one occassion players calling the director when their opp are typing in non-english sentences during bidding and play.. but I don't believe I have ever seen the reverse, where non-english speakers have called the director for players typing in english phrases. So I guess this maybe the tournment ban might should be an option like blocking kibitizer talk to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilbes Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 dummy or mort a beautifull definition for that player...... can see, hear, feel (lol) but not TALK that's how it schould be in all cases...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackest_k Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 if you really want to cheat you can always just run msn messenger (or any other chat client) and chat to your partner that way yes dummy sometimes does make the odd slip up but its in the minority of hands. to be honest I don't think its deliberate mistake on the part of dummy. Its pretty much in the league of misclicks on cards it happens but hopefully not that often. How many times have you seen a partner play a perfectly makable hand and drag it down with their play and what did you say WPP:) sometimes you just want to cry out not that play the ... guess if it happens a lot mark them as enemy if not be forgiving :) Tourneys, well it is out of order but as was said before you can call the tourny director. regards john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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