cnszsun Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=sxh10xxdk10xcj9xxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-(2♠)-?[/hv]Would you raise to 3H or pass first time. If you passed, partner doubled at balancing seat, Would to jump to 4H? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I would have bid because I'm short in spades. If pard has some extras and spades, he might pass out 2♠ fearing a minor 2-suiter with me. I don't have that 2-suiter, so I must bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Yes I would raise, but it's close and maybe some of the experts will say that I'm insane. If p reopen with a double I will certainly jump to 4♥. Or maybe bid 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 No I would pass, but it's close and maybe some of the experts will say that I'm insane. After p reopen with a double I will certainly bid 3 Heart, which is stronger then 2 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I would pass, but I would not say that a raise is insane. I like to have a little in reserve, as partner always expects full values for a bid. If I had a fourth heart, it would be a clear raise. but with only 3 hearts, I would pass now and bid 3♥ if partner reopens. It is inconsistent to pass and then bid game if partner reopens. If your hand is worth a game bid after a reopening double, then it is worth an immediate raise. I guess that some would say that I am insane for passing over 2♠. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 The reopening double tells me that something very, very strange is going on. LHO passed the 2♠ bid, I have a stiff spade, and partner reopens? As it is, when the 2♠ comes to me, I would be expecting LHO to bid, certainly if I bid 3♥, it would be based on the apparent certainty that LHO is bidding. And do I want that to happen? More importantly, do I want partner making a decision over 3 or 4♠, thinking that I had a full raise to 2♥... the 3♥ bid shows a good 2♥ to a average limit... with a maximum limit, we bid game. But I don't have anything resembling a good 2♥ bid. And, having made the sane pass, to jump to 4♥ suggests I changed my mind, when there is no basis for doing so. I have learned little of significance after my pass, other than the fact that something very strange is going on... but what kind of strange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 1♥ (2♠) pass (pass)dbl (pass) 3♥ = decent raise, but not enough for a direct raise 1♥ (2♠) pass (pass)dbl (pass) 2NT+3♥ = least of evils. May have 0 with doubleton ♥ ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I pass the 1st time and 3♥ over a double. If pard reopens with anything but a double, I'll try 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=sxh10xxdk10xcj9xxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-(2♠)-?[/hv]Would you raise to 3H or pass first time. If you passed, partner doubled at balancing seat, Would to jump to 4H? 1) pass now easy2) what? partner reopens with a double,??????????????? I rebid 3H.......looks like the opp can make 4s...easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vang Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 i'll vote for pass and i don't think it's close... i like methods explained by whereagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 OK, it turned out to be me rather than Roland who is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 OK, it turned out to be me rather than Roland who is insane. yeah you are insane B), I have 2 ways of 3 level raise on my system, and yet I would pass without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 #1 yes, but a direct raise does not really promise more in my partnership, but I can live with pass#2 no, why should I? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I often favour light raises, but this isn't even close. Pass. After partner's reopening double nothing happened to my hand. I'm good enough for 3♥ now (playing lebensohl here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 ez pass, raising to the 3 level is a lot diff from raising to the 2 level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 :) I'm happy to see that the good players agree with my view that this hand is way, way below an immediate 3♥ bid and nothing special on the next round. From my bad experiences (like down three or they make 4♠ doubled), it almost hurts me to think of bidding 3♥ the first time. The problem, as I recall, was not enough trumps combined with a shortage of high cards. What about a similar hand like: x10xxxK10xJ9xxx Is 3♥ the first time OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I would bid with the hand with 4 trumps and a stiff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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