gerry Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 match points, good field (New Zealand Pairs final) What do you lead from ♠ Jxxxx♥ xxx♦ xx♣ K9x after 1♥ 2♦2♥ 2NT*3♥ 3♠*4♣* 4♠*5♥ 6♥ 2nt=artificial GF3♠=cue, 4♣=cue,4♠=RKCB In practice a trump was lead and 13 tricks resulted. Problem was that I had only said "cue" when in fact we cue first or second round controls. Leaders partner had the spade Ace and the result was adjusted back to 12 tricks. Sure, I should have given a more complete explanation, but is a spade lead that much more clear when the cues might only be seconds? Why lead a trump? Why not a black suit anyway? Why not ask for clarification when many in the field would have been playing this style of cues? Anyway not a big deal, it just seems that our opp made a lazy lead and got a trick back on almost a technicality, certainly in future i will be more careful about my explanations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I can't comment on the ruling. There are smarter folks here that can. What we tend to do 'round here is post the hand as a lead problem. Then you'll get unbiased opinions on what posters would do. Only then should you reveal what happened at the table. A spade lead wouldn't occur to me since pard had TWO chances to double the cue and the key card ask. I would have led a club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Cue does NOT explicitely mean first round control. I think it is so obvious that a cuebid could (at least potentially) refer to a second round control that anyone who called the director in this situation is either new to the game, supremely greedy, has lived in a cave their whole life, or is a complete idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Or all of the above? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Cue does NOT explicitely mean first round control. I think it is so obvious that a cuebid could (at least potentially) refer to a second round control that anyone who called the director in this situation is either new to the game, supremely greedy, has lived in a cave their whole life, or is a complete idiot. or has the director and committee on the take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Agree with Josh, it's ridiculous to call the TD for this... TD should give the player a procedural penalty for wasting his time :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I'd routinely lead a club.I'd never even think about calling for TD here.If I were called as TD I'd rule result stand any day of the week and have a few words with your opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I'd routinely lead a club.I'd never even think about calling for TD here.If I were called as TD I'd rule result stand any day of the week and have a few words with your opponents. ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry Posted October 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Thanks folks for your thoughts. Normally I like to get kissed before I get f&^%d and I will have my protection ready in future :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I'd routinely lead a club.I'd never even think about calling for TD here.If I were called as TD I'd rule result stand any day of the week and have a few words with your opponents. ditto I'm very surprised by the ♣ lead after RHO said he has the ♣A. Isn't there a big risk to give away a trick by the ♣ lead (LHO or RHO having the Q)? I would a lead a ♠ through LHO's cue. Should CHO DBL 3 or 4♠ with ♠A? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Thanks folks for your thoughts. Normally I like to get kissed before I get f&^%d and I will have my protection ready in future :) Hehe. Youl'll fit in fine here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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