hrothgar Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Here's a second hand from this weekend's Swiss Teams event: First Match of the Day:IMPSRed versus Red You hold Q9763AxQxT873 Partner opens a 15-17 NT I bid 2♥ as a transfer to SpadesPartner bid 2♠ (denying a variety of different super accepts) I see two reasonable choices: 1. Pass 2♠2. Bid 2NT and invite game Even though we were red at IMPS, I chose to pass. I figured that partner needed a max in order for game to have a good shot (the odds strongly favored partner holding a 15 count rather than a 17 count). More over, I thought that the Ax and Qx weren't pulling their full weight. Spades broke 4-1, 2♠ made on the nose and I thought we were headed for a good board (Sue is a very good declarer and defender. If she made eight tricks, the other table wasn't likely to make more) Regretfully, the other table played 3NT which also made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 i could be wrong, but if there are 8 tricks available in spades on a misfit, it's likely there are 8 tricks in NT. i'd risk an invite with this. we have a 9 and a 10 in addition to the hcp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I think this is a clear pass, I had thought about it for a second at the table, but this is no great 8 count, the downsides are as you mentioned and your main suit is no real beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Just because partner did not make a super accept does not mean he is not maximum, he may hold only 2 S and perhaps a 5 card red suit. If he does hold 5 red cards I have awesome help in those suits. For me I invite with this, that is what I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I pass but its close. Give me the ♠10 or move my ♦Q to the black suits and I'll take a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Probably because I started playing 16-18 NT, I always invite with these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I would invite, I think at matchpoints it's close (partly due to the fact spades might be a lousy strain anyway) but red at imps it's clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Those who know me won't be surprised I consider it clear to invite with hands like this. I don't have any great insight other than that it just seems to work, and if this hand occurred in the bermuda bowl I would expect almost everyone to invite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 It's imps. You have to invite. Pass if you need a swing, but under normal circumstances, you cannot afford missing a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Yep, I'd invite for sure. I'd pass at MPs. System plug: I really like stayman followed by 2S to show this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Yep, I'd invite for sure. I'd pass at MPs. System plug: I really like stayman followed by 2S to show this hand. You won't get enough mileage out of playing stayman then 2♠ shows Q9763 Ax Qx T873, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I've told you about this Dutch expression before Josh: A good reader only needs half a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Yep, I'd invite for sure. I'd pass at MPs. System plug: I really like stayman followed by 2S to show this hand. Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I'd invite here both at IMP's and MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I've told you about this Dutch expression before Josh: A good reader only needs half a word. I still don't know what that means. Does a good cliche only need half a meaning? BTW, a google search for "Dutch expressions" yielded about 1500 hits. A search for "Josh Donn" and another for "Joshua Donn" combined for about 800. And a search for "a good reader only needs half a word" yielded 0. I leave it to you to interpret these results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 System plug: I really like stayman followed by 2S to show this hand. yeah.. good add for KERI :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Clear invite for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I've told you about this Dutch expression before Josh: A good reader only needs half a word. I still don't know what that means. Does a good cliche only need half a meaning? BTW, a google search for "Dutch expressions" yielded about 1500 hits. A search for "Josh Donn" and another for "Joshua Donn" combined for about 800. And a search for "a good reader only needs half a word" yielded 0. I leave it to you to interpret these results. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com...alf+woord+nodig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 System plug: I really like stayman followed by 2S to show this hand. yeah.. good add for KERI :) This isn't a Keri plug. The delayed 2♠ Han is referring to means something slightly different than the Keri call in the same sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 true. 1NT-2♣-2♦-2M keri: 4 or 5 in suit M, invitation, NFhan's: I guess it's the same, but always shows 5 cards in M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I've told you about this Dutch expression before Josh: A good reader only needs half a word. I still don't know what that means. Does a good cliche only need half a meaning? BTW, a google search for "Dutch expressions" yielded about 1500 hits. A search for "Josh Donn" and another for "Joshua Donn" combined for about 800. And a search for "a good reader only needs half a word" yielded 0. I leave it to you to interpret these results. http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...?showtopic=3521 Surprised that such a direct translation of a Dutch cliche could give zero hits. "I always get my sin" yields 15200. "I hold from you" 366. Then again, "I go there from out" gives zero hits as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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