Finch Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 ♠ J98742♥ 4♦ AK1074♣ J vul against not, playing against fairly weak opponents who are playing weak NT, 4-card majors, open the lower of two 4-card suits. Swiss teams, 7-board matches IMPs converted to VPs. partner deals P…1♣….1♠…..2♣3♥…x….4♠….5♣P….P…..? Partner’s 3♥ shows 4(+) spades, 5(+) hearts, and values to compete at the 3 –level. It shows no more high cards than a 3♠ bid; your agreement is that you always show the side suit when you can. As a passed hand, 4♥ would also have been a fit bid, so partner is limited. Double of 3♥ is ‘penalties’ You are not in a forcing pass auction. Do you agree with your 4♠ bid?What do you do now? If you had set up a forcing pass auction, e.g. by bidding 4♣ or 4♦, partner will pass over 5♣. Now what do you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Do you agree with your 4♠ bid?What do you do now? If you had set up a forcing pass auction, e.g. by bidding 4♣ or 4♦, partner will pass over 5♣. Now what do you do? 1. It is certainly better than a 3♠ bid :), but what would 4♦ mean in your system? Slam isn't impossible although it is unlikely I'd think, but I think we should make some more positive response than 4♠. 2. 5♠. We have a 10 card fit in spades, good cross ruffing chances in the red suits, and may not have enough on defense to beat 5♣ by enough when 5♠ was making. 3. I think you dbl if a forcing pass situation has been set up. You have a decent chance of setting with 2 ♦ plus help from partner (A♥, ♥ ruff, or ♦ ruff for partner). I think you'd pass partner if he passed than pulled if you've already shown slam interest by bidding 4m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I chicken out. Partner is limited so I need a very specific and unlikely hand for us to make. I'm not going to play for it. I doubt that they are making, but I also doubt that they are going down more than 1, so double has little in its favour. So I pass. I agree with 4♠, altho if my spade suit were a tiny bit better, I'd prefer a diamond bid to encourage partner to get involved at the 5 level. If I had bid 4♦, and partner had passed, I think I'd take the push now, because partner's pass increases the likelihood that he has the specific hand I need (both major Aces, in essence) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I pass too. If I had to pull out a non-green card I'd double. Pard's 3♥ call should be a warning. We have at least one trump loser and a club loser. Making 5♠ seems very remote. Am I supposed to x to stop pard from bidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I would have bid 4♦ over 3♥x. Over 5♣, if partner doesn't bid 5♠, I am not bidding it, either. We have some defense - the two diamonds may cash - partner may even be able to ruff the third one. He may have a heart trick. So we may go plus. On the other hand, the chances of making 11 tricks in spades seems remote. It is possible, if partner has the magic hand - KQxx Axxxx xx xx - but that seems like too much for him to have on this auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I'd double. 5♠ doesn't rate to make since we're probably off a spade and a club off the top. Partner looks to have maybe a stiff diamond and max 2 here and can probably ruff at T3, hopefully he'll have a trick somewhere else for 300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 4S is fine, I pass now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Looks like everyone is 1 off. Partner can have ♠KQ ♥A on a good day, but he can also have ♠A and ♥KQ and many more hands less useful, this means 5♠ is almost out. between pass and double, double will not be very profitable at these vulnerability, but better than nothing, I'd double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Do you agree with your 4♠ bid?What do you do now? If you had set up a forcing pass auction, e.g. by bidding 4♣ or 4♦, partner will pass over 5♣. Now what do you do? 1. Yes,2. double3. double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 About the 4♠ bid, I don't think showing diamonds when partner showed hearts is a good idea, so 4♠ looks fine to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I don't understand double. are they even off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 4♠ is OK.I'll pass now.In the last scenario I think it's close, but I'm gonna take the push to 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Tough as SAKxx will give me a great play in 5S - and they could be cold for 5C (S void) or one off... I am uncomfortable but will take out insurance with 5S (note I think I would have bid 4D so that partner could be in on the act so that in your last scenario when he passes I can take the push slightly more confidently). regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Seems like pard's side suit ain't gonna help us. Dbl or pass, depending on how lucky I feel :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted October 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I counted 5 passes, 4 doubles and 2 bids. I admit I'm slightly surprised at the passes. You know that pass isn't right - it's right either to bid or double (this is the same as decision III). In such a position sometimes you pass and hope for the best, but I think it's a bit pessimistic to think 5C is making. RHO's double of 3H is a bit odd. By the way, at MATCHPOINTS I think 5S is right. You've had a strange auction, and the room may not be saving. At the table I bid 5S, though on reflection I think double was right. To bid honest, I didn't bid 4D because - after the double of 3H - I wasn't really expecting a 5C bid. Anyway the doublers win this time. 5S has play - dummy has K10xxA109xxxxxx - but goes off.5Cx is two off on the obvious defence (it's obvous because dummy has a spade void). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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