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I'm surprised so many say that we're in an FP situation after 4-(4). I thought this was a crystal clear non-force.

There was only one poster who said 4H creates a FP. Yes he posted many times in this thread but that doesn't make him many posters. (Did I miss anyone else.)

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And I guess 4 then 5 also shows some tolerance for hearts, so partner could correct to 5 if he had like a 6 card solid suit and void in diamonds?

Hmmmm ..... not sure about that. There was a problem hand in the IMP Forum (like MSC but in Dutch) with a hand like (loose memory):

AKQJxxx-xxx-AJx-x

and the bidding goes

1-(3)-?

 

The panel was divided between 3 and 4. The 4 bidders concented that the hand was too strong for 4 but were worried that p would get the impression of a more flexible hand if they started with 3. So this is probably something you would need to discuss with p.

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4 for now, 5 over 4.

I agree with your simple and clear cut approach.

 

I am also pulling a penalty double of 4 to 5 since I won't likely add a trick on defence and we make make a slam.

 

.. neilkaz ..

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