What is the meaning of this redouble?

[jdonn]

1♠ p 1NT p

2♣ p 2♦ p

2♥ p p X

XX

 

1♠ = limited (precision)

1NT = forcing

2♣ = could be doubleton

2♦ = asks for a 2♥ bid, will either be passed or can contain other hands (kind of Bart in reverse). 2♥ over 2♣ would have asked opener to run with a singleton

2♥ = as requested

 

Meaning of the double is unknown. What is redouble?

[han]

I'd say with a bad 5-0-3-5 you just have to pass. Partner could have bid 2H if he wasn't sure that he wanted to play in hearts.

 

So I'd say this probably should show a good hand.

[Guest Jlall]

SOS for sure, it is not possible to have a penalty XX, and even if you had one it's of limited utility to make it and have the opps run.

[pclayton]

I don't play Anti Bart but to play this as SOS seems backward to me. Pard has no idea of the extent of our heart fit (except that we dont have 4) and chose to sit out 2H even though opener may have zip. I expect responder has at least 6H on this auction. How can opener be the one to run?

 

I think xx shows at least a doubleton heart and a max 1S opener.

[jtfanclub]

I think xx shows at least a doubleton heart and a max 1S opener.

Why wouldn't this hand want to play in 2♥X?

 

If partner really does have 6 good hearts, he can leave in the XX, I suppose. But with a heart stack to opener's right, this does not look like a good situation.

[pclayton]

I think xx shows at least a doubleton heart and a max 1S opener.

Why wouldn't this hand want to play in 2♥X?

 

If partner really does have 6 good hearts, he can leave in the XX, I suppose. But with a heart stack to opener's right, this does not look like a good situation.

One of two things is happening here:

 

The double is takeout and LHO has a real problem. His hearts are sitting under the bidder and is wondering if they have a playable spot in 3 minor. Why cant we communicate to partner that its OK to double that?

 

The double is penalty (highly unlikely with good opponents I think). Who knows what LHO is doing? He might pull - he might sit.

 

I'd be very happy if the final contract is 2H x'd. I'd be more happy if the contract is 2H xx'd. Pard will be pleased to know I'm a max when he doubles 3D :P

[Finch]

I play a method not dissimilar to this (although I think the hand types in 2D/2H are slightly different). I haven't discussed this particular auction, so I fall back on one of my general principles:

 

If it's not clear what redouble means, it's strong => redouble shows a good hand.

[keylime]

I think it's a maximum, 14-15 point hand with 5-3-1-4 shape or similar. Why they are redoubling I dunno, unless they have a way to differentiate between a direct 2♥ call and a delayed 2♥ call.

[jdonn]

I think it's a maximum, 14-15 point hand with 5-3-1-4 shape or similar. Why they are redoubling I dunno, unless they have a way to differentiate between a direct 2♥ call and a delayed 2♥ call.

A couple things to add.

 

One is I forgot to mention partner can not be 14-16 if balanced, we would always open 1NT with that (could be 5224 though.)

 

The other is he can't be a max 5314, we bid 2♠ artificial over 2♦ to show a hand that is worth significant extras in support of hearts, in case partner is about to pass a 2♥ bid.