Fluffy Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 MP, all vulnerable. ♠AJ9x♥♦Q8xxx♣KQJx S - W - N - E1♦-ps-ps-X?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Pass. If LHO is sitting here my partner won't. Bidding 2♣ is bad when partner has a ♠ fit. I don't think 2♣ improves our chances to get out by much, if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 1♠. Makes it harder for LHO to bid hearts and keeps the option of bidding 3♣ later. 2♣ for the lead is also interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Pass. Let's see if they can balance themsevles into game without my help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 1♠ for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Pass. Anything I do is a lot more likely to help them than my side, both in terms of helping them to guess hearts if they play in that suit, and further reducing the already (admittedly) small odds of them playing in one of my suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Pass. The only reason why I'd think about bidding is here if I have a premonition that LHO has a diamond stack. If we have some gigantic black suit fit, pard can bid over the presumed 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 pass, easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 I don't get it. The opponents have hearts.LHO is about to bid hearts.They will win the partscore battle.They may have, or think they have, game.I want a club lead.2♣ is way too cheap to be doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Pass. I expect partner to run if LHO passes. By the way 2♣ wouldshowa better hand for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 I don't get it. The opponents have hearts.LHO is about to bid hearts.They will win the partscore battle.They may have, or think they have, game.I want a club lead.2♣ is way too cheap to be doubled. And if we can bar pard for the duration of the bidding, thats exactly what we want :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Good points Ken, I agree that 2C has something going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 I don't get it. The opponents have hearts.LHO is about to bid hearts.They will win the partscore battle.They may have, or think they have, game.I want a club lead.2♣ is way too cheap to be doubled. And if we can bar pard for the duration of the bidding, thats exactly what we want :P What bad things can happen from partner bidding? He raises clubs? Oh no... Count me in for 2C. This is MP and getting a killing lead to hold them to 620 is just as good as going for 2000 is bad. And in this case the former is much more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 I don't get it. The opponents have hearts.LHO is about to bid hearts.They will win the partscore battle.They may have, or think they have, game.I want a club lead.2♣ is way too cheap to be doubled. And if we can bar pard for the duration of the bidding, thats exactly what we want :P What bad things can happen from partner bidding? He raises clubs? Oh no... Count me in for 2C. This is MP and getting a killing lead to hold them to 620 is just as good as going for 2000 is bad. And in this case the former is much more likely. I didn't notice it was MPs. The lead could be very important. Nevertheless a diamond lead probably wont hurt (are the club tricks really going to disappear with these spades?) and I'll refrain from giving declarer a road map. I concede its close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 My initial thought was 1S, but I've been convinced by 2C now by the argument. Passing didn't occur to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 [hv=n=sxxxh8xxxxdkxc109x&w=sk9xh9xdj109xcaxxx&e=sq10xhakqj10xdaxcxx&s=sajxxhdqxxxxckqjx]399|300|[/hv] I messed up with the ♠9 sorry, actually this board was all about finding ♠J in 4♥, your bid doesn' matter much, but 1♠ is probably worst for your side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Surely once we open and show up with a heart void declarer will get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 You do not need to find any spade Jack on this hand, unless for overtricks. Suppose a club lead, because you made the right bid of 2♣. Declarer wins the club Ace and finesses a diamond. No matter what happens, he gets a spade pitch on the established diamond trick. If you happen to get a different lead, now there is a chance that you "need to find" the spade 10, sort of. You could, for instance, get a heart lead, win the second one in dummy, and finesse the diamond. Then, you can cross and ditch a diamond loser. Now, you need the spade guess for the overtrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 You do not need to find any spade Jack on this hand, unless for overtricks. Suppose a club lead, because you made the right bid of 2♣. Seems like you shouldn't have to bid a suit to tell yourself to lead it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 You do not need to find any spade Jack on this hand, unless for overtricks. Suppose a club lead, because you made the right bid of 2♣. Seems like you shouldn't have to bid a suit to tell yourself to lead it. You bid the suit to make sure that you lead it. I mean, how can you blame partner when he doesn't respect your lead-director if YOU won't even lead your suit after telling yourself to do so?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 You could, for instance, get a heart lead, win the second one in dummy, and finesse the diamond. It seems abstruse to construct the play after an accepted lead out of turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 You could, for instance, get a heart lead, win the second one in dummy, and finesse the diamond. It seems abstruse to construct the play after an accepted lead out of turn. Sure, you could analyze the hand for most contingencies. I like to cover all the bases. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonxie Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 You do not need to find any spade Jack on this hand, unless for overtricks. Suppose a club lead, because you made the right bid of 2♣. Declarer wins the club Ace and finesses a diamond. No matter what happens, he gets a spade pitch on the established diamond trick. Unless I'm missing something that's wrong Ken. Club K to ace, diamond hook losing to QClub Q, small club to ten - what now , you must ruff , so say ruff high, cash diamond ace, cross to heart 9 and lead established diamond, North ruffs.... or draw trumps spade to dummy, south cashed spade Ace and long club so I do think declarer need to lead a spade to the 9 at some point ( and probably should given your opening and heart void Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Pass Interesting post: I wouldn't have considered anything other pass, but I see there are arguments for other actions, and people who wouldn't consider pass at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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