How to bid strong 4441 hand

[twcho]

Suppose you hold a 18-19 HCP 1444 hand (in this order and a small singleton). What bid you will open? 1♦ or 1♣ (assuming that playing 5 card M)? Will this choice be changed if the Majors are switched?

 

OK, after your opening, your pd, as expected, bid your singleton suit. What should you rebid? Reverse in OM? Bid om? Jump 2NT?

 

How about your hand is even better with more HCP? or the singleton is an honor? Will this affect your choice of bid?

[awm]

I'll open 1♦. Rebid depends on the honor location in the hand, I would consider any of:

 

2♣ if I don't like my hand, planning to bid on over a diamond correction.

3♣ with a good 19 or better and strong minor suits.

2NT with a singleton honor.

2♥ with a strong red suits.

[han]

With 4-1-4-4 I could open in either minor and I will rebid 1S over partner's 1H call.

 

With 1-4-4-4 I will sell it as a balanced 17-19 count and open 1C (1D denies a strong balanced hand.)

[lowerline]

Suppose you hold a 18-19 HCP 1444 hand (in this order and a small singleton). What bid you will open? 1♦ or 1♣ (assuming that playing 5 card M)? Will this choice be changed if the Majors are switched?

 

OK, after your opening, your pd, as expected, bid your singleton suit. What should you rebid? Reverse in OM? Bid om? Jump 2NT?

 

How about your hand is even better with more HCP? or the singleton is an honor? Will this affect your choice of bid?

I open a 1-4-4-4 with 1♦ if I have less than 18hcp and with 1♣ otherwise (as a rule). Only if the suit is very weak, I might open the other minor.

 

After 1♦-1♠, I will rebid 1NT if within range (11-14) and 2♣ if 15-17.

(if I occasionally have 18+ I will rebid 2♥)

 

After 1♣-1♠, I will rebid 3NT (18+) by agreement

(with 15-17 I'd be stuck, so I don't do this and with 11-14 I'd rebid 1NT)

 

All of this is clearly dependent on your NT range. Playing Reverse Flannery Responses after a minor opener or bidding 4th suit with inv+ values might be usefull in this style.

 

Steven

[hrothgar]

This hand is going to present problems no matter what you do:

 

Playing standard methods, there are a number of reasonable options (all of which are imperfect). I've ranked them in order of preference. Personally, I'd chose one of the following two options:

 

Option 1. Open 1♦, intending to rebid 2NT (or 3m) over 1♠. The main problem with this approach is that it suggests a doubleton Spade

 

Option 2: Open 1♥, intending to rebid either 2m or 3m over 1♠. The (obvious) problem with this plan is that it shows 5 Hearts.

 

I have a strong preference for Option 1. I'd only chose Option 2 if the hand looked particularly suit oriented.

 

The one thing that I would never do is open 1♦ and rebid 2♥. To me, this abolutely promises a 5th Diamond. I'm comfortable playing Moysian fits, however, if this is going to happen, I prefer that it happens at the four level than the five level.

[whereagles]

I usually treat 4441s as balanced hands if the singleton is AKQ. Otherwise I pretend that the best minor suit has 5 cards and act accordingly.

[drinbrasil]

Suppose you hold a 18-19 HCP 1444 hand (in this order and a small singleton). What bid you will open? 1♦ or 1♣ (assuming that playing 5 card M)? Will this choice be changed if the Majors are switched?

 

OK, after your opening, your pd, as expected, bid your singleton suit. What should you rebid? Reverse in OM? Bid om? Jump 2NT?

 

How about your hand is even better with more HCP? or the singleton is an honor? Will this affect your choice of bid?

with 1444 small singleton 18-19, I Open 1♦ always. If 1♠ come from partner, i rebid 2♥ and NT in next bid probabily. Partner have to have in mind i can have 1444 and not suport diamonds yet with 3 cards.

 

from 20+ i open 2♦ (multi) and is all easy, but if playing natural system need choice again between 1♦ and for bigger hands 2♣ (followed by your convetnion in 1444 hands - i like 2♣-2♦; 4♥ = 1444, 4♠=4144;4♣=4414;4♦=4441;

[TheoKole]

These type of hands are part of my partner's and my 2♦ multi system.

 

For example 2 ♦ (weak 2 in a major OR 2 NT opener OR 4441 with 16 to 21 points and small singleton.

 

After any resonse by partner, opener bids the singleton suit. At the 3 level, after a 2♥ or 2 ♠ response by partner and at the 4 level after a 2 NT response by partner.

 

If opps interfere with a barrage in the singleton, opener cue bids the suit for takeout. Doubles are for business.

 

Cheers, Theo