what do you think of this bidding

[sceptic]

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West North East South

 

 1♣    Dbl   Pass  1NT

 2♣    Dbl   2♦    Pass

 2♠    Dbl   RDbl  Pass

 4♠    Dbl   Pass  Pass

 RDbl  Pass  Pass  Pass

 

[Gerben42]

1♣: Flawless

Dbl: Bad shape but probably correct

Pass: Terrible. BID SOMETHING! Anything... please!

1NT: Overbid - would be good partner for underbidder East. Prefer 1♦ by 2 miles.

 

2♣: Okay

Dbl: Haven't we shown our hand before? Why not pass?

2♦: Probably safer than SOS Redouble

Pass: Dbl would be consistent, after all partner Xd 2♣ and must be strong.

 

2♠: Can imagine not wanting to play ♦

Dbl: Finally completely lost his mind

Rdbl: Greedy

Pass: Victim

 

4♠: Must be contagious. Why not try and play 2♠ remaxed? Lost mind too

Dbl: Consistent

Pass: Victim

Pass: Hope for the best

 

Rdbl: Gone over the edge

 

Looks like it might make. Did it?

 

BONUS QUESTION: You were...

 

South?

[Walddk]

No offence intended, but the only one who did not make an error was the lone kibitzer. I am not sure she will be back after this B)

 

North sounded like he had a 27 count, East pretended that he had nothing for some time, and South should have bid 1♦ instead of 1NT (he is not quite good enough for a constructive 1NT).

 

Finally, West was not content with playing 2♠XX. I suspect that he knows little if anything about scoring. On the other hand, he seemed to know that 4♠XX would score better than 4♠X ... if it makes.

 

Roland

[P_Marlowe]

# 1C ok

# 1st X, I dont like this kind of t/o, a matter

of style, but I hate those doubles

# Pass? How about 1D or 1H?

# 1NT reasonable, 1D being the alternative

# 2C ok

# 2nd X, ??? does he hold add. values, does he really

believe he can beat 2C

# 2D, ???? I suppose a guy, who passes the first times,

runs the 2nd time, partner promised a reasonable

6 card suit, and East bids a weak 5 card suit

# 2S, maybe West knows East bidding style, else 2S

is suicide

# 3rd X, see comments for the 2nd X, but maybe he is

on drugs and cant move the mouse pointer to another

field

# XX, I give up

 

Hopefully you can summarize, what I think of the complete

bidding. In case I have to choose one player as future partner

I take South, if I should partner North, I ask to be paid, and it

will be a huge amount.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[ArcLight]

# 3rd X, see comments for the 2nd X, but maybe he is

    on drugs and cant move the mouse pointer to another

    field

B) :lol: :lol:

[TimG]

I think North's 2nd, 3rd and 4th doubles were all intended as penalty. Someone asked why he would double the second time after already having shown his hand. Well, he hadn't shown all those clubs! Partner advanced 1NT, so he must have clubs, too, along with his values. Good time to double 2C.

 

Not offering an opinion on his reasoning, just speculating that's what was going on from his point of view.

 

When he doubled the 3rd time, he was probably thinking: my partner couldn't double 2D, he must have a few spades, I don't want to let the opponents off the hook.

 

When he doubled the 4th time, well, he has lots of evidence that west doesn't know what he is doing, and if North thought he could beat 2S, he sure as heck thought he could beat 4S.

[sceptic]

I actually thought 1 Diamond was my bid (south) I opted for 1NT as it takes space away from opps who could easily bring a major suit into play over 1 diamond and I considered my club holding a stopper with 5 hcp (I may have a major flaw in my thinking here) I also never expected pard to have clubs with his x

 

and yes they made 4spades xx

[P_Marlowe]

I actually thought 1 Diamond was my bid (south) I opted for 1NT as it takes space away from opps who could easily bring a major suit into play over 1 diamond and I considered my club holding a stopper with 5 hcp (I may have a major flaw in my thinking here) I also never expected pard to have clubs with his x

 

and yes they made 4spades xx

Hi,

 

in my opinion 1 NT is agressive, maybe hyperagressive,

but taking tactical resaon into the consideration, is reasonable,

not clearcut, but reasonable, i.e. no major flaw in the

reasoning.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[ArtK78]

So many have made valid criticisms of the auction, but I thought I would add my 2 cents.

 

Takeout doubles should not be made on a 4-suiter. I don't like the takeout double on the North hand, but I have seen worse.

 

South must know his partner. The takeout double askes South to bid one of the unbid suits. He has ATxx of diamonds. Why not bid diamonds?

 

As for the rest of the auction, it is too horrible to discuss.

[jillybean]

Takeout doubles should not be made on a 4-suiter. I don't like the takeout double on the North hand, but I have seen worse.

What do you mean t/o X's should'nt be made on a 4 suiter?

What do you suggest for North.

[TimG]

Takeout doubles should not be made on a 4-suiter.  I don't like the takeout double on the North hand, but I have seen worse.

What do you mean t/o X's should'nt be made on a 4 suiter?

What do you suggest for North.

PASS

[P_Marlowe]

Takeout doubles should not be made on a 4-suiter.  I don't like the takeout double on the North hand, but I have seen worse.

What do you mean t/o X's should'nt be made on a 4 suiter?

What do you suggest for North.

PASS

Wrong Font Size.

 

PASS

[sceptic]

another thing that may not be apparent from my post, is I was trying to establish whether my 1NT gave my p the impression I was a lot stronger and his x of 4 spades was ok

[cherdano]

Maybe pass is fine with the North hand (I don't like it) but implying that it is clear-cut is close to ridiculous, there are loads of world-class players who would double.

 

Anyway I am of the school who believes 1N over a takeout double should show values, at least a good 7, I would never consider 1N with South's hand hand. The lack of a club stopper is the lesser flaw.

[paulg]

In my opinion passing with the North hand is losing bridge and you will just be robbed blind by good opposition with this strategy. Double is my first choice with 1NT a close second.

 

With regards to South's bidding, I think most players would expect some values for 1NT and so 1♦ would be my choice. Seeking to keep the opponents out of a major suit contract is an illusion - partner has shown the majors and, from your perspective, they are unlikely to have an eight card fit. So just make your normal bid.

 

Paul

[jdonn]

North has a fine double! You pass now and you never get into the auction, period. It's not like some good 1444 where you can hope to double another suit for takeout later. But I am not closed mind enough to think that a good player couldn't possibly think pass is right. And nor should be any passers in the other direction. I can assure them that if bridgeworld did a poll, double would be a clear majority action.

 

Of course I only mean the first double. Sceptic, why do you post these auctions?

 

BTW I do not support the suggestion that a 1NT overcall is even a consideration.

[TimG]

North has a fine double! You pass now and you never get into the auction, period.

You double now with 433 support for the unbid suits, why can't you double later with 43 support for the unbid suits? :)

[jdonn]

North has a fine double! You pass now and you never get into the auction, period.

You double now with 433 support for the unbid suits, why can't you double later with 43 support for the unbid suits? ;)

Because with luck they bid your last three card suit, then on the 3rd round you get to make the rare 1-suited takeout double.

[ralph23]

Sceptic, why do you post these auctions?

Comic relief ?? ;)

[skjaeran]

North's first double is perfectly OK. You lack some shape maybe, but that's compensated by extra strenght. The easy way to bid this hand is to get in fast and get out fast - unless partner keeps you in the auction. Sure, I know a lot who would pass.

 

Overcalling 1NT is close to lunacy IMO.

 

I've got no idea why east passed over 1♣ - X. I'd strongly prefer a bid here - what depends on methods.

 

South's hand has a major flaw for 1NT - lack of the requisit strenght. 1♦ is more than obvious.

 

As for the rest of the auction - no need to comment. It speaks for itself.

[sceptic]

Of course I only mean the first double. Sceptic, why do you post these auctions?

 

you prefer that I post ones where I bid well?

[Guest Jlall]

lol@ the thought of not Xing 1C. I thought the notion of passing with the north hand over 1C went out in the 60s. Oh yeah, t/o Xs show 4441 and 13+ points I forgot.

[jdonn]

Of course I only mean the first double. Sceptic, why do you post these auctions?

 

you prefer that I post ones where I bid well?

It would be nice to have one where 3 of the 4 players weren't lunatics on several of their turns ;)

[sceptic]

that does not happen to me that often ;)

[the hog]

I am not that keen on the double with the Nth hand. I dislike blanket statements like "many world class players would double". I could just as easily counter this by saying more world class players would pass. There is no evidence apart from anecdotal either way.

 

Regrdless, Nth is the absolute nutter at this table, not so much for the initial double with which I can live, though I think it is a bad bid, but rather for his subsequent inanities.

 

Wayne, I really dislike your 1NT bid and the reason for bidding it is spurios. 1NT here should show more values. imo you have a clear cut 1D call.