spwdo Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 hi, we are all aware of this problem, it has been discussed in this forum also, but we( a group of tds) are trying to stop this very rude behaviour, we send a mail to persons doing this each time they do this, the names are listed central, and if and when a name occurs to often we bann this person in group( all tds at the same time for the same time period) we`re not doing this likely and only after seruios prove , first mails have been send, most offenders replie and saying that they are sorry and willing to change this behaviuor in the future witch we tds welcome to say the least, all these replies are included in the list next to the person, all to do it in the most fair way we can, some even replied to us stating that they werent aware of this policy , ok accepted but u do now is our anwer to that, any td out there willing to cooperate on this is welcome to give me a sign, we feel that we`re not willing to public list these players(some do ask that because they want to know if they pair up with a player like that).the reason for this that we dont want to mark players forever, we believe in second chances.however we feel the need to try and stop this, tds involved are strongly behind this idea in order to try and keep bbo a friendly place to enjoy our favourite game.maybe somebody still asks why we do this. a fine example today .somebody left after a 4♥ contract down8, yes 8 leaving the poor sub to deal with that score, i saw then that player 15 minutes later playing in another tourney(he missed his p cue bid).we hoping to get some positive response in this try to make a change. greetings marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csdenmark Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Interesting Marc! In 'conditions for contest' BBO = Fred has asked such persons to be reported to abuse@bridgebase.com and I prefer that policy and I act accordingly. I like very much BBO is taking care of rude behavior. I dont think it is wise for others to create private ways. Such simply cannot work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 If you can prove "intentional disconnect", like Claus, I say report them to abuse@bridgebase.com, and blacklist them from all future tournments. But just because someone gets disconnect, you sub them out, and a few minutes later you see them back on line does not mean they disconnect on purpose. Proving intent will be a very high standard I think (of course if they admit it...you got them). But people with chronically bad connections shouldn't play in tourneyment, so if the same people are doing this time and again, at the very least blacklist them so they can't play in your events in the future. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spwdo Posted February 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 hi, its not the most favourable way of handdling things, i agree but a few days ago i had a tourneyhost in my tourney that left , when i had a talk about that she simply told me that when things going bad there`s no need to suffer and when u dont get along bridgewise with your partner you simply leave a tournement in progress, HOW ABOUT THAT??need i to remind that she is a td. so when it becomes a common thing to do, what can u say to a player who leaves when even td leaves a tourney in progresss, nothing i think, so we still triyng to create a way of keeping our tourneys fun, when u host 4 or more times a day its very depressing always seeing the same rudiness occurs, its becoming normal i think for players to jump around and play(stay) in the events where they are doing ok. MY POINT HERE IS WHEN NEW TDS DONT READ CONDITIONS OF CONTEST WHY SHOULD PLAYERS HAVE TO KNOW THESE RULES? we`ll see what happens, can tell that i have very good responses of players when received a mail and we all agree that we can ban whoever we feel is repatedly in offence of very clear rules(may we add that it is done with keeping in mind that everybody deserves several chances before action is taken) i think sending a direct mail is a good thing to let players now we dont agree with certain behaviuor greetings marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spwdo Posted February 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 hi, and for the record, we are talking about really bad baord leavers, they go out as a pair at a time(mostley) then u get a call to come to table and u see 2 red dots and a contract beein down in favor of the stayers,we NOT on a witchhunt with this, we NOT seeking out the ones with a poor connection, as inquiry pointed out there are other ways of handling that greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csdenmark Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 MY POINT HERE IS WHEN NEW TDS DONT READ CONDITIONS OF CONTEST WHY SHOULD PLAYERS HAVE TO KNOW THESE RULES? independently they read the rules or not - those are to apply to! Other kind of misconduct than regarding tourney's are also to be considered. The BBO register is the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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