Free Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 You hold:[hv=d=w&v=n&s=s8ha4dk9763cq8642]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West is dealer, the auction goes:pass - 1NT* - 2♣* - 2♦pass - pass - 2♥ - ??? 1NT shows 12-14, any 4333/4432/5332/4441/5422 (not 5-4M)2♣ shows both MajorsYou decided to bid 2♦, competing, but RHO decided to compete as well. What do you bid? Is it close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 3C now. 2D wasn't forcing, so pd will not take me too seriously. No, this isn't close - for me this is an obvious wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 What Ron said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 OK so color me yellow, I'm passing. It's not clear that the deal is not a near-complete misfit. -500 is a possibility that can come only from competing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 This is very close, no *wtp* for me. I would definitely bid if either West had bid 2H, showing a fit, or if we weren't vulnerable. I'm not too worried about -500, but his could easily be a phantom sacrifice. I pass, on another day I might bid. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 3♣. I am not going to sell out to 2♥. I realise that partner may have considerable length in the majors, but even if he is 4432, 4423 and even 5332 or 5323 we have a fit. He should know I am 5-5 with competitive values. With 5-4 I would bid 2NT now. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Is this an exercise in the obvious, or did partner make a few questionable calls? You are dealer, playing 15-17 notrumps. ♠Kxx ♥AQxx ♦Ax ♣K10xx Any thoughts here? What is your opening bid? Second choice? What if partner has a 0-count, the opponents double you, and you go for -500? What if it turns out that you were second seat, and you bid out of turn, and your partner is barred? Any takers for a 3♦ psychic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Another 3C wtp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 3♣. Not close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 It's not clear that the deal is not a near-complete misfit. Your partner opened 1N. Unless he is prone to opening hands that are 5-4 in the majors (and 2-2 in the minors) with a weak NT, it is impossible your side does not have a fit in one or both minor suits. Now, I suppose its possible, and it certainly sounds as if partner might be 5422 on the auction, and also from the looks of my hand, I still prefer to go ahead and bid out the cards I am actually looking at, instead of guessing what partner (or RHO) happen to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 By near-complete misfit I meant we only have one 8 card minor fit and our hands mesh particularly badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Definite 3♣ wtp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BebopKid Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I vote 3C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I bid 3♣ and went -2. 2♥ goes down, probably -2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I bid 3♣ and went -2. 2♥ goes down, probably -2... Damned bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Obvious 3C Frederick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 easy 2nt for the minors, gives us a chance to play the hand from the stronger side and puts the stronger opp hand on lead. 2nt never to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 easy 2nt for the minors, gives us a chance to play the hand from the stronger side and puts the stronger opp hand on lead. 2nt never to play. I agree with 2N on the first round (if it shows the minors), but bidding 2N now would show both minors with longer diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 2NT for the minors is a nice agreement 1st round (inviting for NT in a competitive auction? why? since when?), that would have been very good BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I bid 3♣, but I don't think this is near as clear as most posters.LHO's pass over 2♦ strongly implies that they don't have a real fit. I'd not be very surprised if partner showed up with 44M. Passing is still a bit extreme, though, and I'd go with the big majority and rebid 3♣. 2NT is definitely out, that looks more like 6-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Harald, are you seriously suggesting that you might pass out 2H with this hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Harald, are you seriously suggesting that you might pass out 2H with this hand? No. Normally I'd not dare to pass. As I said I'd bid 3♣. But I don't think it's as obvious as the big majority here seem to believe. The actual outcome when rebidding 3♣ was unlucky, but not sensational IMO. At the table, if I got some kind of tell from LHO I might pass though, but that would be a very low-percentage occurence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Obvious 3C Frederick. I didn't think it's that obvious when I see the vulnerability... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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