ArcLight Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 both vuln. (please answer for both IMPS and MP) RHO (North) opens 1 spade 1. Would you (East) overcall 2H with this hand? If not how much does it need to be improved so as to overcall? ♠A x x♥A K x x x♦K x x♣ x x 2. Now switch seats to South (the partner of the 1♠ opener)Assume East overcalls 2♥, you pass and pard reopens with a DBL.1♠ (2♥) p pX p ? What do you bid with:♠ x x♥ J T x x ♣ x x x♦ J x x x Do you pass for penalties (and risk Overcaller being doubled into game)?Or bid 2♠?Or what else? Perhaps I am mistaken but it seems to me extremely dangerous to pass.Maybe in MP? But I can't imagine doing so in IMPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph23 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 1. Overcall? Yes. 2. After reopening double: 2♠. Same at both forms of scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 1. An overcall is clear at any form of scoring.2. 2S at imps, pass at mps (though 2S is close). Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 - 1. Yes, but I don't think it's an obvious overcall. I would be happier with a weaker hand: ♠ Axx♥ AKJ9xx♦ xx♣ xx - 2. 2♠. Pass is out of the question at any form of scoring. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Agree with Roland:- the overcall is the best way to get your hand off your chest.- if partner doubles, bid 2♠, you're way too weak to pass that in, even at MP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 1. 2♥, a better than average overcall that I've seen.2. At IMPs, 2♠. Can't afford to risk a misdefense and a -470/670 swing back to teammates, especially at Swiss. At MPs, 2♠ as well - you have probably one trump trick and no entries. Very anti-field if you pass here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I agree with Roland, give me a hand with same HC but less controls and I wouldn't overcall at all. Passing 2♥ double has no sense. Clear 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 >>- 1. Yes, but I don't think it's an obvious overcall. I would be happier with a weaker hand: ♠ Axx♥ AKJ9xx♦ xx♣ xx >>I agree with Roland, give me a hand with same HC but less controls and I wouldn't overcall at all. Am I misunderstanding or are these two statements are in conflict? I take it that Roland would rather overcall with a hand with an extra trump (the J) at the expense of the K♦. I think Fluffy is saying to pass with that hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I take it that Roland would rather overcall with a hand with an extra trump (the J) at the expense of the K♦. Correct. Longer and stronger suits make an overcall better. No one will disagree that AKJ9xxx is better than AKxxx, so I am happy to sacrifice ♦K if I can get an extra heart, preferably an honour. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I think Fluffy is saying to pass with that hand? No, sorry HC stands for HCP. I mean Axx AKxxx Qxx Jx and I will pass. But AAKK is too strong. Opening values with good 6 cards won't pass, actually that's exactly my book definition of a 2 level overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 - 1. Yes, but I don't think it's an obvious overcall. I would be happier with a weaker hand: ♠ Axx♥ AKJ9xx♦ xx♣ xx - 2. 2♠. Pass is out of the question at any form of scoring. Roland agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yes overcall, if you don't you will get stolen from/shut out too many times. After the reopening X 2S looks normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 - 1. Yes, but I don't think it's an obvious overcall. I would be happier with a weaker hand: ♠ Axx♥ AKJ9xx♦ xx♣ xx I would question whether this is a weaker hand, unless by "weaker" you meant "fewer high card points". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 This is a clear 2♥ overcall IMO. Agree with Roland though that the weaker hand with longer suit is even a better overcall. With responder's hand I think 2♠ is obvious at any form of scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Clear overcall for me and it would be just as clear with my K of ♥ being the Q. 2♠ in response to the balancing X is automatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Is anyone else remotely tempted to overcall 1NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Is anyone else remotely tempted to overcall 1NT? I'd routinely open this hand 1NT, but not overcall. Two reasons: I'll wrongside the contract too often and I'd receive a (♠) lead benefitting opps too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Is anyone else remotely tempted to overcall 1NT? Not close. I have 14 HCP a suit orinted hand with controls and poor spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reisig Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Need a negative vote? I would NOT overcall!3 cards in S and empty suit..not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I agree with the majority. I did think about a 1NT overcall, but it is very wrong, IMO. Downsides are that the five-card suit is hearts and that the spade suit is too long. If I held A10x in spades, I'd be closer to 1NT (much closer), as then I don't care about "killing" partner's possible Qx. I cannot imagine anyone passing the reopen, at any form of scoring, unless you needed a swing at BAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Ken your posts are becoming less weird, what's going on ;) Agree with him that Axx sucks for a 1N overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I would overcall 2H, but would really not be happy about it, and would certainlly apologise to partner if I went for a number. It really is very close and I would not quibble too much if any pd of mine decided to pass this. I MUCH prefer the hand Roland suggested as a 2H overcall; that is a far better hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 So if it wasn't for Reisig's surprise vote we would have a unanimous panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zman102 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I overcall 2 ♥. and as pard of the opening bidder I bid 2 ♠ after the reopening double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Is anyone else remotely tempted to overcall 1NT? Yes. I think pass and 1NT are reasonable alternatives. I would overcall 2♥, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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