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Why did "The Social Network" get good reviews? I found it one of the most boring and annoying movies I have seen in a while.

 

I am glad to hear it! I have come to see Facebook as annoying and the thought of seeing a movie about what a great idea it is seemed unbearable.

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Can you be more specific?

When I read about the beginning of facebook, I found the story actually interesting. (It must have been an Atlantic or New Yorker article, I don't remember.) The movie added this whole standard-movie-story non-sense that he is this anti-social character who gets dumped by girls and doesn't get into the clubs (that were important in Harvard 50 years ago) and is generally unpopular, and has to get even for all that by creating facebook. I.e. the typial movie-genius cliche. That seems a much more boring story than the real Mark Zuckerberg.

(Btw, I don't even claim that it paints Zuckerberg in an unfair light, the real Zuckerberg is probably a much more social and likeable person, but also did more ethically questionable things in the wild first months/years of facebook. I.e. he is bad in a more interesting way than the movie persona.)

 

That overs why it was boring and partly why it was annoying. What got me besides the flat story was the constant and completely artificial rhythm of the dialogues. Nobody talks the way the figures in the movies were talking with each other.

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I'd like to read the article you reference Cherdano.

 

I saw it Saturday night. Its not in my top 10 much less 100, and I'm puzzled why its even being nominated for an Oscar. However, to call it (very) boring and annoying is a serious overbid to me. I thought it did a reasonable job capturing the little turf wars, and the issues involved with a start-up, although I would be interested to know where the documentary stops and fiction starts in the storyline.

 

I found it reasonably entertaining - maybe a 5 out of 10. However it sounds like the producers and writers didn't think Zuckerberg's story was interesting enough and had to bring in a simplistic "nerd vs the establishment" element and that's a shame. I also think what they did to Saverin was totally reprehensible. - edit - just read the facts - he got diluted from 35% to 5%, not the .07% referenced in the film lol

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When I read about the beginning of facebook, I found the story actually interesting. (It must have been an Atlantic or New Yorker article, I don't remember.) The movie added this whole standard-movie-story non-sense that he is this anti-social character who gets dumped by girls and doesn't get into the clubs (that were important in Harvard 50 years ago) and is generally unpopular, and has to get even for all that by creating facebook. I.e. the typial movie-genius cliche. That seems a much more boring story than the real Mark Zuckerberg.

(Btw, I don't even claim that it paints Zuckerberg in an unfair light, the real Zuckerberg is probably a much more social and likeable person, but also did more ethically questionable things in the wild first months/years of facebook. I.e. he is bad in a more interesting way than the movie persona.)

 

That overs why it was boring and partly why it was annoying. What got me besides the flat story was the constant and completely artificial rhythm of the dialogues. Nobody talks the way the figures in the movies were talking with each other.

I thought that standard movie story nonsense about him not being popular was a rather short part of the story, in the film he grew notorious/popular after his 'facemash' experiment. I think almost all films have artificial rhythm in dialogues and it doesn't bother me much, but it's been a few months since I've seen the film, so I couldn't comment. What I particularly liked about the film was the way Jesse Eisenberg played a low-key, but also impatient and arrogant genius, I thought it was a complex character, and with an average performance the film would be next to worthless.

 

Obviously what I'm trying to do here is not to disprove your opinion, just to let others know that the whole forums community is not against the Facebook film :)

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Nobody talks the way the figures in the movies were talking with each other.

It's an Aaron Sorkin screenplay. Did you watch his TV shows "The West Wing" or "Sportsnight"? Nobody in real life talks like his scripts. Can you really imagine a courtroom dialogue like the one between Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men"?

 

He likes clever dialogue.

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It's an Aaron Sorkin screenplay. Did you watch his TV shows "The West Wing" or "Sportsnight"? Nobody in real life talks like his scripts. Can you really imagine a courtroom dialogue like the one between Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men"?

 

He likes clever dialogue.

I am not talking about the script. It seemed to me that the movie was trying to portray the persona as being smart by always having them reply within 0.1 seconds (never quicker, never slower).

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I am not talking about the script. It seemed to me that the movie was trying to portray the persona as being smart by always having them reply within 0.1 seconds (never quicker, never slower).

Characters talking over each other is also a hallmark of Sorkin's style.

 

I haven't seen the film yet, so I'm just assuming it's similar to his other works that I've seen.

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Watched No Country For Old Men again last night. That's such an incredible movie.

 

Cormac McCarthy. Coen Brothers. Tommy Lee Jones. Kelly MacDonald (remember that scene outside the club in Trainspotting?). Josh Brolin. Javier Bardem. Woody Harrelson.

 

What more can you ask for?

 

Favorite lines:

 

Where'd you get that gun? (Carla Jean)

 

The gettin' place. (Llewelyn)

 

I can't plan your day. (Sheriff's wife)

 

Whatcha got ain't nothin new. This country's hard on people, you can't stop what's coming, it ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity. (Sheriff's uncle)

 

Note: this is a dark, violent movie.

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Watched an old film on some BBOer's recommendation. "The purple rose of cairo". Definitely worth rewatching sometime. Maybe Woody Allen is not overhyped afterall. :D Too bad bullets over broadway can't be "streamed" via netflix...
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Characters talking over each other is also a hallmark of Sorkin's style.

 

I haven't seen the film yet, so I'm just assuming it's similar to his other works that I've seen.

They are not talking over each other. When I said they always start their replay exactly 0.1 seconds after the other person finished their sentence, I meant it.

Anyway, if that's Sorkin's style (and obviously it was for TSN), then he cares more about creating his styles than about letting the actors make a credible impersonation of their characters.

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My wife and I watched You Don't Know Jack. Both liked it a lot.

 

Excerpt from Alessandra Stanley's review:

 

... it is a credit to the filmmakers that a movie dedicated to a fearless, stubborn man’s campaign against the medical establishment and the criminal justice system doesn’t overly romanticize his struggle or exonerate him from blame.

 

No film about euthanasia, no matter how sensitively written, can avoid offending one side or the other; at best, both sides will find reason to complain. More important, “You Don’t Know Jack” is a compelling, at times thrilling, tale that can absorb even those with little interest or feeling for the subject. This is one of the saddest, dreariest subjects imaginable, but “You Don’t Know Jack” is anything but.

I haven't seen Biutiful, True Grit or The King's Speech yet. The leading actors in those films are definitely at the top of their game. But I don't see how anyone can top Pacino's performance in this HBO TV movie.

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Watched No Country For Old Men again last night. That's such an incredible movie.

 

Cormac McCarthy. Coen Brothers. Tommy Lee Jones. Kelly MacDonald (remember that scene outside the club in Trainspotting?). Josh Brolin. Javier Bardem. Woody Harrelson.

 

What more can you ask for?

 

Favorite lines:

 

Where'd you get that gun? (Carla Jean)

 

The gettin' place. (Llewelyn)

 

I can't plan your day. (Sheriff's wife)

 

Whatcha got ain't nothin new. This country's hard on people, you can't stop what's coming, it ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity. (Sheriff's uncle)

 

Note: this is a dark, violent movie.

 

 

"It's a mess, ain't it, Sheriff?"

"If it ain't, it'll do 'til the mess gets here."

 

 

"You think this boy Moss has got any notion of the sorts of sons of bitches that are huntin' him?"

"I don't know. He ought to; he's seen the same things I've seen, and it's certainly made an impression on me."

 

 

"Well, all the time you spend trying to get back what's been took from ya, more is going out the door. After a while, you just have to try to get a tourniquet on it."

 

 

And my personal favorite, with set-up...our hero has found (and taken) a whole lot of money that belongs to some bad dudes, and he knows that in the morning, they're going to come looking. He's trying to get his wife to rush and pack so they can get the hell out of dodge, and she keeps interrupting him with questions. Exasperated, he stops packing, and the questioning culminates in:

 

"So, for how long do we have to -"

"Baby, at what point would you quit bothering to look for *your* two million dollars?"

 

 

Great freakin' movie.

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