kfay Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=e&s=sk76542hk10dq104ck3]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] I passed this hand 1st seat and probably set a record for the strongest pass of my life: Pass - Pass - 1♣ - Pass 1♠ - Pass - 1NT - Pass 2♦* - Pass - 2NT - Pass? *Regular NMF Now I regretted my initial action but wasn't sure how to move on, thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Abstain. Would have bid 3♠ over 1NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 This hand is a perfect example of an obvious system improvement that no one seems to use, which has been published by Marshall Miles. If playing regular NMF, either by a passed hand or always, 2♣ should always be the NMF bid even if the opening was 1♣. That way when partner doesn't have four hearts or three spades, he can just bid 2♦ rather than 2NT, and this hand could follow up with 2♠ and not risk going to the three level to show its spade length. In addition, it's actually more valuable to have a natural 2♦ bid than a natural 2♣ bid, as they will never let you play in 2♣ when you have a fit there anyway. In the given situation, I like your first pass and I like pass now. I don't see why you regret your initial action, it seems to have kept you out of a bad game presuming partner is showing a minimum and doesn't have three spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpace Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 What is wrong with passing in 1st seat? Values are too scattered. I would not open this. is NMF forcing to game or just one round? In the case of latter, passing 2NT seems right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I opened 1S, we had no trouble finding game :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I wouldn't open this acelwss 11 count with no stiffs and a weak 6 card suit, but rather than NMF, I show my 6 card invite with 3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I opened 1S, we had no trouble finding game :lol:. Agree. I'd never pass this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I opened 1S, we had no trouble finding game :). Agree. I'd never pass this hand. I could be misinterpreting, but I take the smiley after "we found game" to mean that the game they found did not make :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 This hand is a perfect example of an obvious system improvement that no one seems to use, which has been published by Marshall Miles. If playing regular NMF, either by a passed hand or always, 2♣ should always be the NMF bid even if the opening was 1♣. That way when partner doesn't have four hearts or three spades, he can just bid 2♦ rather than 2NT, and this hand could follow up with 2♠ and not risk going to the three level to show its spade length. I don't know NMF, but on my view 2♠ would just mean I want to play in 5-2 rather than NT. French play 2♣ as limit+ relay and 2♦ as sing off since I have memories of bridge (14 years). It is not NMF though, they only focus on finding responder's major fit. Eventually trying 4-4 in hearts at the 3 level later (it happened very few times that I can remember) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Abstain. Would have bid 3♠ over 1NT Some (many) people play 3♠ as forcing I would bid 3♠ now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I opened 1S, we had no trouble finding game <_<. Agree. I'd never pass this hand. I could be misinterpreting, but I take the smiley after "we found game" to mean that the game they found did not make :) Donn! You are misinterpreting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I would definitely pass now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I would have opened the hand. Given that I passed initially, I would pass again now. I certainly would NOT bid 3S which should show a far better suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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