han Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 A partner of a friend of mine had this hand in a teamgame in Nashville, what would you do? AKxxA10xxxxxxx With everyone vulnerable, your RHO opens 1C. Would you overcall 1H or double? Say you bid 1H, LHO passes and partner bids 3C which shows a mixed raise (say about 7-9 HCP with at least 4-card support). What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 dbl. I would sometimes bid 1♥ with this shape but this is a suit I don't want to bid if I have a good alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Pass. If I could bid 1H, I could bid 2C. I can't do either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 1♥. 3♥. I really dislike a t/o X on a 5cM, and this doesn't really feel like a good hand for any other bid than 3♥ on 2nd round. For me they seem clear-cut, for others (?!?! better players?!?!), maybe they don't. Mind you, 3♦ on 2nd round should be a blame transfer bid, so it would really be useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 A partner of a friend of mine had this hand in a teamgame in Nashville, what would you do? AKxxAxxxxxxxx With everyone vulnerable, your RHO opens 1C. Would you overcall 1H or double? Say you bid 1H, LHO passes and partner bids 3C which shows a mixed raise (say about 7-9 HCP with at least 4-card support). What now? Agree with the bidding. Now I just bid the Vul. game. Yes it may have no play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted August 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 I'm going to edit the hand, you also had the heart 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 1♥, Always show 5 card major at the 1 level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Close choice between 1H and double, but I tend to bid the 5 card major. After a mixed raise by partner, I bid game. I consider this to be clear at IMPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 My style is a TOx with this pattern and an 11 count. Over a mixed raise? This hand looks pure, and I'll make a game try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 I like to just bid game over mixed raises with controls and a shapely hand, I don't want to tell them to lead a diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 1♥ for me. I can double later. As to the next call. I seem have have a need for about four covers. The range of "about 7-9 HCP's" does not help me much, unfortunately. If this were what one partner of mine calls a "limix raise," meaning about 2 to 2 1/2 assured cards and a stiff, I'd assume a stiff spade and 2 1/2, which gets me really close. If "7-9" looks like "three cards and a doubleton," I'd bid game also. This is why I hate HCP ranges without more understanding. What am I supposed to expect here? I have a rather pure hand -- Aces and spaces -- with seven losers by LTC, a minimum for what I would call an overcall. The non-minimum feel of this thing is merely the undervaluation of Aces. If I sit here and imagine a likely "7-9" hand, perhaps ♦A, ♥K, and a side Jack? What's that do for me? I lose a heart, a club, and two diamonds, and I still need some shape in spades and a nice heart split. If I imagine ♥K, ♥Q, and ♠Q, or maybe the diamond Ace, then I lose two diamonds and a club, if all else works out well. Replace the diamond Ace or spade Queen with the diamond King, and I hate this contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I would X first as I don't think this is strong enough to X later. I treat this as a one bid hand. Over 3C I would just bid 4H, some days partner has diamond shortness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulven Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 1H, 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Even though I don't often double with a 5 card major, this certainly looks like the hand for it. Over the mixed raise I just don't know, I certainly don't think raising is obvious since (no matter what you call it) it will tend to be lighter than 7-9 in practice. Color me yellow but I'm on the fence. 3♦ seems pointless to me though, partner will be no better placed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Even though I don't often double with a 5 card major, this certainly looks like the hand for it. Over the mixed raise I just don't know, I certainly don't think raising is obvious since (no matter what you call it) it will tend to be lighter than 7-9 in practice. Color me yellow but I'm on the fence. 3♦ seems pointless to me though, partner will be no better placed. Why should he be lighter in practice? If there was no weaker raise available I would understand, but here with bad hands partner can bid 3♥ or (Bergen^H^H^H god forbid) 2♥... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 My controls are prime - and unless a 3D bid asked partner to promote shortage there it doesn't seem to help me much - so I think I bid 1H and then 4H on the same basis as Justin (and the possibility that if partner's shortage is S he holds a working control in D and maybe we can engineer something good...). Actually the weak to intermediate hands with 4S & 5H (say 8/9-11/12) can be shown by using a 2D mini-flannery overcall against a natural 1C : you pay your money and take your chances if you will (just take any control and put it in the D suit and it becomes a takeout double for me, and without the specific agreement, I think 1H on a semi-decent carder as that is the only way to find 5-3 H fits realistically - and he can still bid 1S forcing in response to it).regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 dbl for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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