Double ! Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 This hand came along during a 2-session imp pairs game in Nashville. You are in fourth seat holding: ♠AJT, ♥ Q4, ♦ K3, ♣ KQJ987.You are Vulnerable. The opps are not. After two passes, your rho bids 3♥, nv. Red vs. white, your bid! DHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 4C, by process of elimiation. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I bid 4C and do not try for 3NT here, with reservations.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 3N. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It works a lot more than it should however. I'd much rather have the hearts on my left by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I never do this but ok, 3NT. Does it make me look good if I say I bid it confidently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 3NT. Bid what you think you can make. At these colors, LHO never has AKJxxxx and, even if he does, he may not lead them. Of course, you could still get a heart lead when the top heart honors are split, but there is still a chance that the hearts are blocked or that partner has a stop (Txx may do). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 At these colors, LHO never has AKJxxxx and, even if he does, he may not lead them. And if he does, I would forbid his partner to lead hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 4♣. 3NT requires pard to have the club ace and some help in hearts. One prayer is enough for me, thankyouverymuch :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I might try 3NT at the table but I'm really unsure... 4♣ seems nicer. Give me different 2 points than ♥Q and we could start talking about 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 What's wrong with double? Works bad if p has exactly four spades. Otherwise it works fine. Seems less flawed than the other options. And if I double very sloooowwwwlllyyyy p will know to bid 3N with his 4-card spades and single ♥ guard :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Sorry - misread the problem. It is RHO who opened 3H and you are in direct seat. I suspect that 3NT is the right contract, but not from my side of the table. So 3NT is out. YUCK! Double is out, not so much because I have only 3 spades, but because I have only 2 diamonds. I bid 4C and hope that we can land on our feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markleon Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 3N If preemptor has AKJxxxx, there will be no outside entry. So, there will still be a high chance of scoring your Q♥ as there may be a duck to preserve communication with partner. Double doesn't work very well if partner is 3-3-4-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 What a nightmare. I hate the do-nothing bid of 4♣. Where are we going, opposite a passed hand? There is virtually no way to reach a making game after this... maybe with KQxxx xx Axx xxx he can bid 4♠ along the way, but that is a tiny target. Our hand is so soft that it is very, very tough to picture a hand opposite which we make 5♣, unless he has a stiff ♥ and a maximum pass. I hate pass: there is no realistic hope of partner balancing, especially when he has the cards to make 3N a legitimate contract. I hate double: I can stomach the short ♠s, but not both the short ♠s and the very short ♦s... and my ♥ holding reduces the chances of his bidding 3N over my double. I hate 3N. Not only do I need to score a ♥ trick (which I may do even when we have no stopper) but I need the ♣A just to get to 8 tricks! So I need not only help in ♥s (from partner or the opps) and the ♣A but also the ♦A or the ♠K... or a blockage of some nature in the ♥ suit. And to make things worse, even if LHO refuses to lead a ♥, because he's seen his partner's 3rd seat favourable preempts before...they may beat me by leading diamonds! Finally, on most hands where we don't catch the ♣A in dummy, we're going down a LOT... we could easily be down 4 or 5, altho we ain't going to be playing 3N doubled :P Okay, I'm a lot braver on a forum than I am in real life.. I bid 3N, with supreme confidence. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I think 3NT is obvio. And that 4♣ is not even worth considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 I bid 3N, with supreme confidence. :P Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 All Mike needed in addition to that post is the "Rocky" theme music to round it out. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted July 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 There are many votes for 3NT, and many votes for 4♣. Right or wrong, I decided to double. I got lucky: don't know what I would have done had partner responded 4♦. (Pass, I guess. There's always next hand.) THIS WAS THE FULL HAND. East: ♠832, ♥96, ♦AJ654, ♣ A64South: ♠ KQ964, ♥ KT7, ♦ 987, ♣ T5West: ♠ 75, ♥ AJ8532, ♦ QT2, ♣ 32North: ♠ AJT, ♥ Q4, ♦ K3, ♣ KQJ987 As you can see, 3NT would not have been a big success. What does one hand prove? NOTHING But I thought that this hand was very interesting. Thanks to all who looked at the hand and/or responded. DHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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