Miron Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 p - p - 1♠ - 2♣p - 2♥ - x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Dbl is not penalty. Partner has not bid so far and I cannot have ALL suits on my own. So it's takeout. I'd guess either a good 5-4 or a shapely 6-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I thought 1♠ then 3♦ was identical to 1♠ then X but now I see this difference, partner can now bid 2♠ instead of three if she wants. It seems there does not exist one single double at the two level that is penalty. There is always some excuse why it's not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I play it as 16+ (usually 18+), no particular objection to partner leaving it in with 4+ hearts, but not truly penalty. I define a penalty double as one where, if partner has a minimum balanced hand for his bidding so far, he should pass the double. That's almost unimaginable here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Double shows a good hand - good enough to get back into the auction. Clearly, it is not a single suited spade hand, otherwise one would bid 2S or 3S. So, it shows spades and diamonds and about a King more than a minimum opening. It does not promise 6-4, but that is quite possible. With 6-4 and a minimum, you probably should not double - just bid 2S assuming the spades are good enough, or pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Goren rules for t/o meets all these conditions (still mostly accepted today):1) Dbl is not conventional2) Partner has not bid or only passed3) Contract is not NT4) Dbler did not pass this suit and dbl it laterThis dbl meets all those conditions, so this dbl is t/o. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 It's takeout, but I would expect a really good hand, this is a dangerous auction. A king above minimum opening strength certainly wouldn't be enough for me. 16+HCP with 6-4 might do, if the hcp are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 It's clearly a strong t/o. Either a very strong 5♠4♦ hand or a more than decent 6-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 It's clearly a strong t/o. Either a very strong 5♠4♦ hand or a more than decent 6-4. So what would you do with a 19 count 5332? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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