Gerben42 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=s?t732hkdkq743c85]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] Not vulnerable, you have the option between a 2-suited 2♠ and a 1♠ opener. What is the honor you need to open on the 1-level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I voted king. But on occasion I might make a 1-level opening with the queen instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Evaluating the sec K as one HCP and following the rule of 20, I need the ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I think that this is much more a question of system rather than judgement. Case in point: I can give a very specific answer for MOSCITO. (I would not make a constructive one-level opening holding QT732 in Spades because the hand has 4 slam points. A constructive opening with 5-5 (or 6-4) shape requires a minimum of 5 slam points. KT732 would be a perfectly legitimate opening.) However, this data point has little relationship to the decision to open this hand playing SAYC2/1 GFPolish ClubPrecisionAcoletc Personally, I would want to hold a minimum of KT732 playing PrecisionAT732 playing Acol or SAYC In all of these cases, I'd like to have another Jack. Playing 2/1 or Polish Club, I'd want a dead minimum of AJ732 (and I'm still not happy about my choice of openings) I'll point out that this is the hand type where to Polish Wilkosz 2♦ did very well. Lots of folks playing traditional single suited preempts couldn't bear to pass a shapely 5-5 pattern, chose to open at the one level, and ended up cutting their own throat when partner played them for a legitimate opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Dealer: South Vul: None Scoring: MP ♠ ?T732 ♥ K ♦ KQ743 ♣ 85 Not vulnerable, you have the option between a 2-suited 2♠ and a 1♠ opener. What is the honor you need to open on the 1-level? Q but partners expect me to open light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Wow, is that a new partnership, Mike? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 mike is a bipolar opener, don't mind him. Anyways, K for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I evaluate the ♥k as worth roughly 2 points. What I need to open depends on system. Playing standard, I want about 11 points to open a 5-5 pattern so would need the ace. In other methods I might open lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 mike is a bipolar opener, don't mind him. Anyways, K for me. Surprised I said king, I would normally say ace I think. Maybe I said this because it was white/white MP. Guess I'm bipolar too :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Notwithstanding the number of responses here, it seems rather impossible to answer this question. You indicated that the partnership has the tool of a two-suited 2♠ opening. As I have no idea what the parameters are for that opening, or what 1♠...2♦ implies when you do not elect to open 2♠, I cannot tell what is the right opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Notwithstanding the number of responses here, it seems rather impossible to answer this question. You indicated that the partnership has the tool of a two-suited 2♠ opening. As I have no idea what the parameters are for that opening, or what 1♠...2♦ implies when you do not elect to open 2♠, I cannot tell what is the right opening. I think the implication is clear, Ken. The COC (CoQ?) implies that when the hand is a 1S opener, you don't open it 2S. But you have a 2S preempt to fall back on on any hand less than a 1S opener, so you don't have to "stretch" to open. The choice is not between 1S and pass, but 1S and 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I said the King in theory, then I will find myself opening with the queen all the time. EDIT: Oops I though the other option was pass, if the other option is 2♠ I think it is the ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I said the King in theory, then I will find myself opening with the queen all the time. And I thought you were a solid citizen :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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