skjaeran Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 1H is a psyche. No other word for it. Huh? If that's your systemical bid with this hand it's no psyche. Of course, you have to alert it and explain it as 3+. Btw, one polish pair had just this sequence on vugraph from Jesolo today, 1♦-1♥, alerted and explained as 3+♥'s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 1H is a psyche. No other word for it. Huh? If that's your systemical bid with this hand it's no psyche. Of course, you have to alert it and explain it as 3+. Btw, one polish pair had just this sequence on vugraph from Jesolo today, 1♦-1♥, alerted and explained as 3+♥'s. While I alert 1♥ when it could systemically be 3 cards (only in one partnership, as posted earlier) I am not sure that it is alertable in ACBL land. The alert chart posted by the ACBL only requires a 'natural' 1 level suit response to be alerted if it is 'highly unusual' in shape or strength. Since it is only 3 cards in very limited situations, and opener treats it as 4 cards for the purposes of his initial rebid, it does not strike me as 'highly unusual'.... but I think that Active Ethics requires an alert....altho the ACBL has been known to punish unnecessary alerts... go figure :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I am shocked by the number of passers. This hand looks stronger than a typical balanced 6-count where everybody would bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I'm shocked by the number of bidders. Passing now keeps you from arriving in silly contracts like 3N. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I'm shocked by the number of bidders. Passing now keeps you from arriving in silly contracts like 3N. :) So you pass with a balanced 6-count in order to avoid reaching a silly 3N? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 The 2♠ bid is a whole lot more to blame for the bad 3NT being reached then the totally automatic response to the opening bid, although 1NT is a lot better than 1♥. People worry too much about stoppers for their notrump bids, after all if partner has AKx xxx AKxxxx x or something then someone has to bid notrump. As for the strength of the hand, an ace and JTx of partner's suit is a lot stronger than some hands that everyone would reply on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Responding 1♥ is something I considered. It is not a psychic. It is, as mentioned, a "textbook bid" that was described in an older Encyclopedia of Bridge that I own. Not my style, usually, especially if xxx, but plausible. That being said, Opener bid quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph23 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 ♣♦♥♠ I sort of secretly admire whoever voted for 1♥ on this poll. My question is, why did he select 1♥ rather than 1♠ :D :lol: :) ? 2♦ I can't understand at all. Maybe someone can explain how that bid makes any sense at all ? It must be a systemic something-or-other. Sign me up for 1NT and I'm prepared to apologize to partner if I need to. But I like the Jack and ten of ♦ together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted July 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Here's why I like 2♦, assuming it's natural and NF (not inverted): (1) I'd like to keep the auction alive. This hand includes an ace and a mild fit for partner's opening bid -- there are many 1♦ openings that make game. I would also like to put some pressure on the opponents rather than let them in on the one level. (2) Partner will almost always have 4+♦ for an opening 1♦ bid; I am not particularly concerned about a 3-3 fit, and even then opponents sometimes balance and let us off the hook. (3) I don't expect 1NT to have any real play opposite a typical balanced 12-14 hand. If opponents pass it out I'm going down. On the other hand, if partner has 5♦ then I expect 2♦ to usually make. (4) Opponents will not usually sell to whatever bid I make unless partner has a lot extra. After all, they seem to have the majority of the points and at least one major fit. If I raise diamonds, partner will know to bid 3♦ with five. If I bid 1NT, partner will usually either pass the buck to me (and I really don't want to be in balancing seat over 2M with this hand) or double a making contract for penalty. (5) If partner does have a lot extra, I'd rather play 3NT from his side than mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 BTW - Playing "better minor" 1C=4+cards 80% and 1D=4+cards 95%. So there is little risk to 2D. (Some play that 1C=2+ and 1D=4+ and usually 5+ except when opener is 4441) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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