jillybean Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sakxhkxdak109xxcax]133|100|Scoring: MPp p p ?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 2C. You have a 21 hcp one suiter which is worth an upgrade. Opposite a passed hand, I plan to rebid 2NT over the expected 2D. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 1D, the alternative being 2NT, butI dont like offshape openings. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sakxhkxdak109xxcax]133|100|Scoring: MPp p p ?[/hv] I open 2NT, because I hate 2 clubs, and avoid it whenever possible. This one might qualify as an exception, though. At any rate, I'll never be able to show this hand after 1 diamond, and I risk wrongsiding 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 This is an ugly hand. One thing that I don't do is open 2NT. I don't have problems with the shape, however, I think that the hand is way too strong for a 20-21 HCP 2NT opening. 1♦ also strikes me as problematic. I don't have a good rebid over 1♠. I think that I am (regretfully) planning to open 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 1♦ also strikes me as problematic. I don't have a good rebid over 1♠. I think that I am (regretfully) planning to open 2♣. I would try 3NT after that. This one is 1♦ for me. These hands are problematic in standard. Live with it. Whatever choice you make is going to haunt you. My style is to simply open on the 1-level, at least I've shown my suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 2♣ followed by 2n. Easy and does not help opps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 2♣ followed by 2n. Easy and does not help opps. This seems like a good practical solution to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I'm also 2♣ followed by 2NT. I don't see how 1♦ then 3NT over 1♠ shows this hand at all. Partner is never going to consider spades after a 3NT rebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 At the table I probably open it 2NT (21-22) so that is how I voted. Given that it is presented as a problem it is probably right to open 2C. I feel that I have some pretty strong continuations over 2NT, and feel a bit weak at my 2C continuations, so that may influence my decision. That said, the hand really is worth 2C I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 This is an ugly hand. One thing that I don't do is open 2NT. I don't have problems with the shape, however, I think that the hand is way too strong for a 20-21 HCP 2NT opening. 1♦ also strikes me as problematic. I don't have a good rebid over 1♠. I think that I am (regretfully) planning to open 2♣. What he said. Including the regret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Minority 1♦ for me. No, I am not worried about missing a game if partner passes (happens once in a million years; all pass *and* a game missed that is). I have continuations for any 1MA response, but that is not the topic. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 2C then 2N doesnt seem like enough if partner is going to pass (since we make game opposite a 4 trip yarb), but if hes going to make slam tries it's definitely enough so that's what I'll choose.. Hopefully he has a way to show a double negative immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted July 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sq9752hqj8d853cq2&w=sjt6ht9742djcjt83&e=sak8hk3dakt964ca4&s=s43ha65dq72ck9765]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - - - Pass Pass Pass 2♣ Pass 2♦ Pass 3♦ Pass 3♥ Pass 3NT Pass Pass Pass Here's the full hand, 3nt did make here but I think I should have gone down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 I don't see why you should have gone down. Any lead but a heart presents you with the ninth trick, and the heart lead is anything but obvious. A club lead would give the defense a second chance to find the heart switch, but still not easy for South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 2♣ then 2NT for me with this hand that has too much potential to open just 2NT and I fear 1♦ may be passed out when game is cold. Also my 2♣ may get us to slam if PD has a near max for his pass. Hopefully we have the mechanisms to find a ♦ slam after 2NT or 2♣ followed by 2NT openings should that play better than NT. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 3N by EW is cold regardless of who declares it. In fact, if the defense stubbornly plays 3 rounds of H's to start with, EW will take 10 tricks instead of 9. Even if W declares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted July 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 One more example to worry less about some fancy bidding and for both of us to improve our card play. :) I wasn't so happy with the 3♦ bid, I'd hate for partner to rasie ♦'s and bypass 3nt. Play problems are easy to review myself using double dummy, that is why you onlysee my bidding disasters :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Yes, I stand corrected. It always makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 I'd always get this hand off my chest as a 22-24 NT. I open 2NT in my methods to show that hand, most natural bidders have to bid 2♣...2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Nobody said 2C followed by a diamond bid. Why is this? Don't we have eight and a half playing tricks? Might go 2♣-2♦3♦-3♥3NT - pass ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dodgy Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I'd open 2♦ ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Nobody said 2C followed by a diamond bid. Why is this? Don't we have eight and a half playing tricks? Might go 2♣-2♦3♦-3♥3NT - pass ? 3♦ takes up a lot of bidding space and I don't have solid agreements with any regular p about continuations, let alone with a not so regular p. After a 2N rebid partner knows how to look for a major suit fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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