paulg Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) [hv=d=s&v=e&e=sqjt7hk65dkj2ct32&s=s6hj7dat8753cj986]266|200|Scoring: IMP2♦ - (2♥) - Pass - (4♥)All pass[/hv] You open a weak 2♦, admittedly not everyone's choice, and the opposition bid quickly to the heart game. Partner leads the ♦4, declarer plays small from dummy, you play the ♦A and declarer follows with the ♦Q. What do you lead now? (Edit: you lead lowest from xxx in suits you have not raised) Edited July 14, 2007 by cardsharp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 This hand happens to me all the time with a concrete partner, and all the time she didn't want to raise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I return the spade, hoping for a ruff there. If partner had the stiff diamond, then hopefully he or she will play a high spade back for me to ruff. Otherwise I know that declarer's queen was a true card. If a diamond back is my only chance to beat the contract, then too bad. FWIW I wouldn't raise with 3 low unless I expected to make the contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Hi, leading style? Assuming the Q is doubleton or single,that gives partner either 3 or 2.Because the 4 of diamonds is the smallescard, you will know, if diamond shorage ispossible with partner. But I think I play a spade, because adiamond ruff is not enough to beat the contract. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I am not at all sure partner holds just 1 diamond. What I like to try and do in these positions if make up possible hands the player might o/c rather than dble for t/o. If declarer lacks the A of trumps he likely has 6 trumps and I will know what to play back when partner gives me the S ruff. It is possible that partner has the A of S and will be able to let me ruff showing me what suit to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I can easily see at least 10 tricks for declarer with 5(6) hearts, 2 diamonds, and 3 spades, so it looks like it's time to get busy and build our club tricks before they can disappear. Playing for ruffs doesn't produce enough defensive tricks if declarer holds 6 hearts and something like Kxx, AQxxxx, Q, Axx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceeb Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 ♠ ♠ works if pd has 2 aces, or ♥A + ♠K, or ♥A + sing ♦. ♦ requires singleton ♦ plus ♠A or ♥A. Hence by this rough accounting the ♠ has 5 chances and the ♦ only 2. Moreover, it never seems to be partner that has the singleton -- declarer after all has shown length in another suit. -- Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted July 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=skxxxxhxxxd4caqxx&w=saxxhaqtxxdqxxckx&e=sqjt7hk65dkj2ct32&s=s6hj7dat8753cj986]399|300|Scoring: IMP2♦ - (2♥) - Pass - (4♥)Lead: ♦4[/hv]A minor suit return was needed to beat the contract. Was declarer being clever with his diamond play? I think the normal play is the ♦J at trick one to convince RHO that his partner has the ♦Q. Of course with ♦Qxx then he may have raised, so perhaps declarer has found the better play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Paul - give declarer the Ks and the Ac and the club return doesnt work so hot. A diamond works in either case however, but to get it the max you need to get pard to continue As, s. Signaling for a spade could be costly if pard underleads. In that case, pard would probably force out the club A with his (presumed) KQ and take likely set. This hand is a good illustration why it helps for pard to make a courtesy raise with any hand with 3. Agree with Paul that declarer made the proper play with Qxx in hand by dropping the Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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