bid_em_up Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Ho hum. It was obvious to everyone including the kitchen sink that the comment referred not to the initial pass, but rather the pass after partner doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Ho hum. It was obvious to everyone including the kitchen sink that the comment referred not to the initial pass, but rather the pass after partner doubled. Just as it was obvious to everyone, that she meant passing the 2nd time as well. Keep trying though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 What I DID say way that anyone who passed the second time should be relegated to the 4th division. Only if declarer makes it ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Well put me in the 4th division then, because I am going to smoothly pass here and enjoy the torture declarer is going to have. If they come into what would for me be a strong club type auction, I'm converting. If you're going to bid, it's 3NT period. This concept of "all low-level doubles must be takeout" or "cooperative" is at times ridiculous. The Good Lord gave you J-T fifth of trumps with 2 kings that your pard is not banking on, with a short holding in pard's diamonds - nearly ideal conditions. To say that this hand is not a hand to penalize on, is simply not respecting your partner, and frankly I want to keep Larry around when this situation presents itself. Pard is not reopening here on a junky 0-3-5-5. Pard has values that are "transferrable". Furthemore, pard on 0-3-5-5 is going to take a freebid anyway due to the fear of defending with a void, especially at IMPs. So, pard is probably 1-3-5-4 or a strong balanced hand with 2 spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Well put me in the 4th division then, because I am going to smoothly pass here and enjoy the torture declarer is going to have. If they come into what would for me be a strong club type auction, I'm converting. If you're going to bid, it's 3NT period. This concept of "all low-level doubles must be takeout" or "cooperative" is at times ridiculous. The Good Lord gave you J-T fifth of trumps with 2 kings that your pard is not banking on, with a short holding in pard's diamonds - nearly ideal conditions. To say that this hand is not a hand to penalize on, is simply not respecting your partner, and frankly I want to keep Larry around when this situation presents itself. Pard is not reopening here on a junky 0-3-5-5. Pard has values that are "transferrable". Furthemore, pard on 0-3-5-5 is going to take a freebid anyway due to the fear of defending with a void, especially at IMPs. So, pard is probably 1-3-5-4 or a strong balanced hand with 2 spades. Larry won't stick around if you start converting doubles like this from an 11-15 opener Dwayne ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Phil, If it's an 11-15 opener, he most likely wouldn't be balancing here. <chuckles> ;) That, and he would have probably opened his 4 card major if limited.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 1. I don't agree with the 1st pass. I'd have bid 1NT.2. I'd never be in this situation, but since I didn't plan to defend 1♠x, I must have thought my hand was too weak or flawed for a 1NT bid last time. Thus I'll bid 1NT now, which in that case should show a hand about this strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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