gwnn Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 TM good opps 2nd seat white on red J64K64A7KQ765 (2♠)-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Easy pass. Double is out, and I don't like overcalling at the 3 level with a flat 13 count, xxx in opp's suit, and a not so great suit of my own. Make the hand 64K643A7KQJ65 and I'd bid 3C. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 I voted for pass as I have neither points, nor hearts for a t/o double, nor a solid 6 cards suit to overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Clear pass. Even thinking is a gross overbid. From all sensible textbooks: "Pass in second seat after 1x or 2y (weak two) does not deny an opening hand. It denies a hand that is suitable to come in at this point." Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 3C ugly, I know. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Obvious pass. As Roland said, even thinking about this is an overbid: no enough hcp's, the long suit is only 5 cards (no source of tricks), 3 cards in their suit is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nice to see almost everybody agreeing. This was an authentic expert TM (or so i thought, it DID feature 3 or 4 stars). Both players intervened with 3♣ and both players went for -1100 with no slam making for opps, meaning a flat board (clubs split 3-3!!). At one table the opening was 2♦ mini multi but it's an even more clear-cut passing situation (or weak nt dbl) in my humble opinion. I was just a little B) when I saw the flatness of the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Over a natural 2♠ I have no strong opinion, maybe I'm leaning towards passing now that I see the reactions from others. Over a multi, 3♣ is really weired. If double is systematic with a 13-count balanced you can do that, otherwise I have no misgivings about pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Bidding is not even a logical alternative for an expert. Per what Helene said, the fact hands like this, which would otherwise have had to pass, get an easy way into the auction is one of the reasons I don't like playing multi. I know, it's me against the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zasanya Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Both players intervened with 3♣ and both players went for -1100 with no slam making for opps, meaning a flat board (clubs split 3-3!!). I am one of the mugs who voted for 3♣.I am curious to know how declarer non vul lost 1100.Would it be possible to see the full board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 I'm sorry it's not very possible. Defense cross-ruffed and got a fair number of top tricks also. I only kibbed this one so it's not saved :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 I'm sorry it's not very possible. Defense cross-ruffed and got a fair number of top tricks also. I only kibbed this one so it's not saved :) Of course it is. Pull up the myhands records for one of the players involved and then locate the board, assuming of course you remember at least one of the 8 players names. :) http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 OK so I found the board: [hv=n=sq52ht5djt9865c92&w=s8haj987dkq32caj8&e=sakt973hq32d4ct43&s=sj64hk64da7ckq765]399|300|[/hv] Double dummy it's -5 but defense can be messed up for -4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 I think this is extremely unlucky (OK, North could have been void in clubs, might be even worse). Not to excuse the 3♣ bid, you're probably all right that it's a bad bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 This isn't unlucky at all Helene; it good what it deserved. I would not even contemplate 3C and that is well before reading the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 This is a non problem. I wouldn't even consider a 2C overcall to 1S either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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