bestguru Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 When responding to Jacoby 2nt do you show a shortness when it is a singleton ace? If you do, does this cause problems when cue bidding and using ace asking bids later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 No.Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestguru Posted July 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Short and sweet. Thanks Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Yes.Yes. Partner bids 2NT and you have to answer.All bids between 2NT and 4M have a meaning, you have to pick the one, which describes yourhand best.So if you have a better bid, take this, but else showthe single. If you have a forward going hand with a singleton Ace,than you have to show the shortage, it will misleadpartner so that he devalues KQxx in the suit, but it maybe your best bid compared to 4M, which shows comletegarbage. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Yes.Yes. Partner bids 2NT and you have to answer.All bids between 2NT and 4M have a meaning, you have to pick the one, which describes yourhand best.So if you have a better bid, take this, but else showthe single. If you have a forward going hand with a singleton Ace,than you have to show the shortage, it will misleadpartner so that he devalues KQxx in the suit, but it maybe your best bid compared to 4M, which shows comletegarbage. The problem is not just that partner will undervalue his holdings in your short suit. The problem is also that partner will misplace your cards. If he visualizes 13 points scattered among spades, diamonds, and clubs, and a stiff in hearts, he will also be disappointed because you only have, say, nine points scattered among spades, diamonds, and clubs because four of your points are locked into your stiff heart. If you treat a stiff Ace as if it was Ax, partner's expectations willl not as often be shattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Arend and I usually don't show the ace as shortness, and we've had some good experiences with selling a hand like Kxx AQxxx A KJxx as 2-5-2-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Arend and I usually don't show the ace as shortness, and we've had some good experiences with selling a hand like Kxx AQxxx A KJxx as 2-5-2-4. What would you bid with the givenhand, in case the Queen and the Jackare spots? With the given hand you have several options, either bid 3NT(as your remark seems to indicate,youintend to do), bid 3S (a slight over bid)or 4D. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 We'd still show a 2-5-2-4 I think. With the hand I gave we'd show that pattern with extras, with a minimal hand we'd first show a minimum and then show the pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillHiggin Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 If holding near minimum, I treat singleton A or K as part of a balanced hand. If strong enough that transforming the singleton honor into a small card would still have been an opening hand, I show the singleton Ace but still treat the singleton King as if it were Kx (singleton Kings can improve more responder holdings than a singleton Ace can). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I only show stiff-A if I would make the same bid if it was stiff-small. IOW, if I have an extra king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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