Fluffy Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 -AQ98AKQ982K72 MP, Nobody is vul, you are dealer 1♦-(ps)-1♠-(2♣)2♥-(ps)-5♥-(ps)??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 5H has 2 possible meanings depending on partnership agreement. - Bid 6 if your H are good, bid 6 if you have a C control. Looking at my hand, I believe the meaning in this partnership is the former. I have both. Is my hand too good for a simple 6H? Probably. I bid 6D to show a fine D suit in addition to my slam acceptance. Pd may decide that that is sufficient for the grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 I like The Hog's thinking here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 I can't construct a hand that is looking for good trump here, however, something like AKxxx, AQxx, xx, xx seems very lreasonable with pard's bidding. If I trust pard I'll try 6N. 6N also stops a club ruff if clubs are 7-1 or 6-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 I can't construct a hand that is looking for good trump here, however, something like AKxxx, AQxx, xx, xx seems very lreasonable with pard's bidding. If I trust pard I'll try 6N. 6N also stops a club ruff if clubs are 7-1 or 6-1. Uh Phil, as you have the AQxx of H, pd can't have them as well. I think you must have misread this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 6H, if it is wrong, it is partners fault,he could have gone slower, e.g. 3His certainly forcing. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 6♥ is enough for me, I only have second-round club control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 I have significant extras, good trumps and a club control. I'm certainly bidding 6. I picture partner with 5-5 in the majors, something like AKxxx Kxxxx x xx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 I'd be expecting partner to hold something like AKxxxx KJxxx V xx. I've got good trumps and a ♣ control, so I'll raise to 6♥. If partner held a ♣ void, he'd made a splinter bid, and with no void he could just BW. My hand indicates that he 5♥ is not just asking for a ♣ control (a method I guess not a single norwegian play). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Would 3H by partner be forcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Would 3H by partner be forcing? Why not? In a non-interfered reverse sequence it would (at least that's how most play it). It could be different here if the lower range of 2♥ is slightly lower than normal, but I would assume the follow-ups to be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 I would expect that I could pass 3H from partner. On this hand I would bid 6D. I don't know what 5H meant, but whatever it meant I've got it, and I've also got a very good diamond suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Would 3H by partner be forcing? It may or may nor be, I assumed it would,most likely 2NT has the same meaning asit would have without the 2C overcall, butthis is certainly a partnership agreement. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 If 5H asked for a club control then IMO systemically we can't bid 6D, as it should suggest grand slam interest and thus a 1st round club control.Still 5H is weird as partner obviously has more worries than just the club control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Bidding 6 here, and I don't care if we could have 7. If 7 makes, I'll yell at pard for making silly jumps like that <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 I can't construct a hand that is looking for good trump here, however, something like AKxxx, AQxx, xx, xx seems very lreasonable with pard's bidding. If I trust pard I'll try 6N. 6N also stops a club ruff if clubs are 7-1 or 6-1. Uh Phil, as you have the AQxx of H, pd can't have them as well. I think you must have misread this problem. No Ron, I didn't misread the problem. Are you telling me that you think pard holds something like: AKxxx, JTxxx, void, Axx? For me, this is a 3♣ call followed by 5♥. Hands like: AKxxx, JTxx, x, Axx also start with some sort of forcing heart call (3♥ hopefully). I suppose it is possible pard is looking for trump here. Sure he can't have AQ, but he could have K-J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 3♥ would clearly be forcing IMO, I've never played a raise of a reverse as NF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Bidding 6 here, and I don't care if we could have 7. If 7 makes, I'll yell at pard for making silly jumps like that :) We agree, and I have serious doubts about PD having the needed 1st round ♣ control for a grand. The jump to 5♥ should have a very specific meaning. Once again I continue to stress to my PD's to keep the bididng low (if possible) when we have good hands and clearly the balance of strength ! .. neilkaz ..(who hates jumps to 5M anyhow) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 5♥ asked for club control, I was 95% sure , maybe should had noted :/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I'd be expecting partner to hold something like AKxxxx KJxxx V xx. I've got good trumps and a ♣ control, so I'll raise to 6♥. I expected exactly this hand, didn't you consider 6NT then?, maybe you have only 11 tricks, but maybe they ruff a club as well..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I'd be expecting partner to hold something like AKxxxx KJxxx V xx. I've got good trumps and a ♣ control, so I'll raise to 6♥. I expected exactly this hand, didn't you consider 6NT then?, maybe you have only 11 tricks, but maybe they ruff a club as well..... Maybe I should - I didn't.But, no, I don't expect a ♣ ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Ok, the full hand was [hv=n=sakjxxhkxxxdv (v stands for jack in france)c10xx&w=s109xxhjxd10xxxxcjx&e=sqxxxh10xxdxcaq9xx&s=shaq98dakq9xxckxx]399|300|[/hv] And 6♥ was more than enough, because many people went down in 6♥ when RHO failed to make the club overcall (probably didn't play best line, but hard to analyce). 6NT makes ONLY after ♣J lead, wich is the one that happened in 6♥, RHO can decide wich way to squeeze himself on trick one after that lead (Strp squeeze or simple squeeze). Both lines require a good timing with the heart suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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