mike777 Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 [hv=d=e&v=e&s=sqj8h94dkqj9765c2]133|100|Scoring: MP(3C)=P=P=X P=?[/hv] Your choice and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hmmmm...I suppose it makes me crazy to consider 4♣, intending to pass 4♠. Moysians don't scare me none! (second choice: bid 3♦ the first time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 I'd try 5♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hmmmm...I suppose it makes me crazy to consider 4♣, intending to pass 4♠. yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hi, it is 4D vs. 5D, 4D gives partner the chance toshow his 6 card mayor, and it gives him the chance to check out, the downside, we maymake 4D+1. And yes, I agree with pass the first time. No question about that. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hi, it is 4D vs. 5D, 4D gives partner the chance toshow his 6 card mayor 6?! And I'm crazy for hoping partner has a 5 card major? Maybe I just don't understand what 4♣ shows from a passed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hi, it is 4D vs. 5D, 4D gives partner the chance toshow his 6 card mayor 6?! And I'm crazy for hoping partner has a 5 card major? Maybe I just don't understand what 4♣ shows from a passed hand. The cue shows both mayor, butyou have a suit worth showing. You are a tad too weak direct 3D,because this will get you to 3NT-X to often, but you have to show the suit. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 5♦ seems like a reasonable shot. I might have overcalled 3♦ the 1st time. Odd; pard is reopening with a double and LHO didn't raise so I'm wondering where all the clubs are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Although I think 4D describes the hand nicely, I would probably bid 5D at IMP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Although I think 4D describes the hand nicely, I would probably bid 5D at IMP's. Kinda like what I think too... but wouldn't be so quick to bid 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I'm going to go out on a limb and see if my table feel is 'on' today... mmmm.... my sense is that a quiet 3♠ is enough. Any more, and if he has, say, a typical double (mmmm.... I'd guess a typical double looks a bit like AKxxx AQ10x 10 AJx, altho, in a pinch he might be missing a red 10)... and he might get us too high.. slam has a play, but it's not great after the preempt. No way am I bidding any number of diamonds... I've seen far too many reopening doubles on 5413 shape! But please don't quote me I assume that most recognize that I was not entirely serious in the above: I think that, at the table, I'd bid 5♦.... but 4♦ is possible opposite a mere balancing double. 4♣ shows 2 or 3 suits, not a single-suiter. And I'd never, ever make a direct overcall... not unless I had first removed all the non-pass cards from partner's bidding box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Wow I'm the only one who is that negative about this hand? I mean, partner is in pass out seat, so may be lighter than usual. Partner must have a monster to make 4 or even 5♦ imo, so 3♦ will be enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Wow I'm the only one who is that negative about this hand? I mean, partner is in pass out seat, so may be lighter than usual. Partner must have a monster to make 4 or even 5♦ imo, so 3♦ will be enough... ATxx Axxxx Ax xx is a monster? I can't imagine bidding 3♦. I don't know whether I would bid 4♦ or 5♦, as I have seen the other hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Looks like a boring 5♦ to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Wow I'm the only one who is that negative about this hand? I mean, partner is in pass out seat, so may be lighter than usual. Partner must have a monster to make 4 or even 5♦ imo, so 3♦ will be enough... ATxx Axxxx Ax xx is a monster? I can't imagine bidding 3♦. I don't know whether I would bid 4♦ or 5♦, as I have seen the other hand. Anything else than aces is rather useless... How can you know :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Wow I'm the only one who is that negative about this hand? I mean, partner is in pass out seat, so may be lighter than usual. Partner must have a monster to make 4 or even 5♦ imo, so 3♦ will be enough... I'm with you Free. My partners will strive to balance with a lighter than usual double in 4th seat. Except for my nice diamond suit, my hand is a soft 9 count with no controls - worse than partner is playing me for as a PH on this sequence. 3♦ seems like enough for me. Give partner a reasonable balancing X like this: AKxxQJxxxxxxx and 3♦ seems like plenty after they take the 4 top tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I will try 4C and pass 4S, if I am not fortunate enough to see 4S I bid 5D and hope 4C has not promissed 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Wow I'm the only one who is that negative about this hand? I mean, partner is in pass out seat, so may be lighter than usual. Partner must have a monster to make 4 or even 5♦ imo, so 3♦ will be enough... you reopen weaker than most. With my reopening style I wouldn't bid 5♦ also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 4♦ - in case partner is strong you dont shut out slam this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 My 4C bid would be a transfer to D - which pretty much describes my hand (extra D but unwilling to punish partner for his balance)...and leaves him room to do more (new suit now from him is very strong and forcing!!). Had my D been headed by AK, I would certainly commit to at least game - even AQJ I think.regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 With a regular partner, 2nd seat overcall of a preempt are very sound, so this is a clear pass over 3♣. 4♦ would be RKCB for ♦, so this would be my choice so i can pick up the extra information on the way to 5♦. With a pickup partner this is a simple 5♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 4.5 diamonds, depending a bit on partner's protective style I was going to bid 5, and I would do so at imps, but I'm being persuaded by other posts that perhaps 4 is enough. Partner is likely to raise if 5 is making. He knows aces are good cards as well. We may miss game if our singleton club is the key to the hand. The singleton club is a bit strange, and there's some indication that partner is strong balanced without a pure 3NT bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 4.5 diamonds, depending a bit on partner's protective style I was going to bid 5, and I would do so at imps, but I'm being persuaded by other posts that perhaps 4 is enough. Partner is likely to raise if 5 is making. He knows aces are good cards as well. We may miss game if our singleton club is the key to the hand. The singleton club is a bit strange, and there's some indication that partner is strong balanced without a pure 3NT bid. Sounds sensible to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Although I think 4D describes the hand nicely, I would probably bid 5D at IMP's. My thoughts exactly. I'd be hesitant to open 4♦ as this would shut off partner's spades, but now that partner has shown me a green card, I feel free as a bird. 3♠ is a gamble with very few chances to be right. I expect to be shortened fast, and as my hand is too weak and without outside entries those 6 diamond tricks that I expect could well turn into 0 tricks when spades are trumps. Edit: I've never had a partner who would appreciate a joke so cruel as the bidding of 4♣ from me would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 5♦, I don't think inviting makes much sense. Partner is going to downgrade cause his diamonds suck, and it;s right to be in game opposite some non doubles, like A10x Axxx xxx Axx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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