jillybean Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=e&s=sjxxhkjxxdcaj10xxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP?[/hv] Playing SA, no special agreements to handle this type of hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Open it (1♣ or if playing stong club, 2♣), all seats all vul..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 "It's a bidder's game." I would prefer to have xxxKQxx or AJxxvoid AJ10xxx which would satisfy the rule of 22 as well, but nothing is perfect. Since I have a rebid on all possible partner's bids, and a club lead is what i'd like from partner when defending, looks ok to open it. I don't feel too strong about it though, and I wouldn't mind if you pass that hand as my partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=e&s=sjxxhkjxxdcaj10xxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP?[/hv] Playing SA, no special agreements to handle this type of hand. I think winning bridge players can open it one club or with a pass if partner expects you to be very sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 1♣. Its close, and 20 years ago many would pass this hand type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I pass. Clubs is the wrong suit in which to open light: a clear opener if the 6 card suit was a major, but light 1♣ bids take away no bidding space... in fact, they make the opps's entry into the auction easier than does a pass, and I can and probably will bid later. I don't like J's, and the rule of 20 is not something that I ever expect to pay any attention to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Well, since it's no longer unanimous, I open 1 club. I can show this hand well as an opener, and I have no methods to show a 4 card major/6 card minor with an overcall. If it went three passes and then 1 diamond or 1 spade, I don't like any of my possible bids. I also don't like my choices if my partner opens 1 spade third hand. I think passing now just puts off the pain. There's too few losers in this hand to pass throughout the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 The hand is a good advertisement for a WEAK 2♣ :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I would open it because it has 3-4 in the majors but its very very close. Wouldn't fault a pass at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 1♣ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted June 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sxxxxhaqxxdaqxxcx&w=sxxhxxxdkxxxxckxx&e=sakqxhxxdjxxxcqxx&s=sjxxhkjxxdcajtxxx]399|300|Scoring: IMP1♣ (p) 1♥ (X)2♥ (p) 4♥ AP[/hv] Here is the full hand. I opened and it worked out fine but I'm not sure if we gained anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 As usual you could pass and still get to game with partner opening in third seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 As usual you could pass and still get to game with partner opening in third seat. Hmmmm... P P 1♦ 1♠ .... I presume it now goes ... X P 2♥ P .... Now what? ? Both hands have three spade losers...tough to look at that and see 10 tricks. Of course, I could make alternative hands where the bidding would have been the same as Jilly's but have gone down, but I'm not so sure that if Jilly doesn't open that game is still reached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 As usual you could pass and still get to game with partner opening in third seat. And if that was all that is to bidding, people would still be passing bad 13 counts... Playing standard, it's a very marginal opener. Playing some sort of EHAA/F-N system or a strong club system, it's a 2C opener. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 After passing I would bid 2♣ and probably north leaves me there :S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 This hand has good playing prospects in clubs as well as both majors. I would open it but I think it is close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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