Psyche attack ?

[Edmunte1]

[hv=d=w&v=n&s=shaqj93dkq8cakj102]133|100|Scoring: IMP

(pass)-pass -(1♥)- ?[/hv]

Teams, you're sitting South.

 

1) What's your bid?

 

2) If you double and bidding goes

(pass) - pass - (1♥) - dbl

(1♠) --- pass -- (2♦) - ?

 

What is your choice now?

[Finch]

I would not, repeat not, double.

I would either overcall 2C or pass.

[keylime]

I wholeheartedly agree with Frances, with pass being a more standout action due to style (I rarely overcall 5 card minors unless decent hand).

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

#0 why do you believe the bid a psych?

unless you hold 10 cards in hearts,

and 1H promises 5+, the bid is possible,

I am nice requireing a 10 carder, because we

do talk about a 3rd seat opener, and maybe he

opens Kxxx in hearts, because he believes

is a good suit.

 

#1 2C, I have a 5 card suit, I bid it, X is crap.

What do you do if partner jumps to 3S or

even to 4S (may happen, in case he holds

a flawed weak two in spades)?

 

#2 would not be there, but having replaced a

man who got a heart attack after he realized

the bid he made, pass, what else?

Do you have a fit, do you want to find out,

if your opponenents know how to use the red

card?

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Gerben42]

I cannot imagine Dbl with this hand, I would overcall 2♣.

[Apollo81]

I would overcall 2♣, as the auction is less likely to pass out if I do that than if I pass.

 

I would sooner double than pass.

[jillybean]

Obvious 2♣ , who would take another bid over opps 2x?

[han]

I would bid 2C, and I would rather pass than double.

[mike777]

2clubs.

 

Hopefully partner will not punish us for making a light overcall but sometimes you just got to take a risk.

 

I understand those who prefer to pass.

[SoTired]

anything but double. 2C looks right. Pass works best if +200 is a good result. If RHO is psyching both suit and hand, we could get +300 and miss a heart slam. If RHO is not psyching, then partner is likely to reopen with a double and we will get a juicy result.

 

I have opened a monster 2-suiter 1-of-a-suit and got passed out before, so bidding 2C and getting passed out is no different.

 

50/50 between pass and 2C.

[Free]

1. 2♣

2. Dbl would never come up in my mind with this hand...

[jillybean]

If 2♣ is clear and the auction was:

 

(pass) - pass - (1♥) - 2♣

(x) --- pass -- (2♦) - ?

 

Do you have another bid?

I think you have to pass now

 

[mike777]

If 2♣ is clear and the auction was:

 

(pass) - pass - (1♥) - 2♣

(x) --- pass -- (2♦) - ?

 

Do you have another bid?

I think you have to pass now

Pass is my second bid.

[Rebound]

I don't need another bid (right now). I have a partner. If she has anything at all, and since she is surely short in hearts, she can re-open after 2♦ goes pass-pass. That's perhaps unlikely, but then again, sometimes, when you are fixed, it pays to stay fixed. I would pass 2♦.

 

Edit: or, err... what Mike said.

[sceptic]

ok maybe I am being really stupid here (not the first time), but surely x and then bid clubs shows a monster hand with clubs

[barmar]

Yes, X then ♣ shows a monster. But when 1/3 of your points are in the opp's suit, your hand is not as monstrous as it first appears. If your partner has anything, it's likely in ♠, where it's not very useful. You're going to want to take finesses against RHO -- how do you expect to get to dummy to do this?

[whereagles]

I'm gonna pass 2♦.

 

- If it's passed, lead the ♦K and expect a couple down.

- If LHO bids 2♠ and it comes back to me, I'll dbl.

[pclayton]

We aren't sure RHO psyched. If I had a 6th or 7th heart, I'd be more concerned.

 

I'll pass. There's a lot of spades floating around out there and I don't think it will go pass - pass - pass.

[SoTired]

The trouble with X and then bid clubs, is what do you do when partner bids 3/4S over the dbl? Still want to X? After all, partner could easily have 7330 with 7 spades to the K and out and being vul vs not, not want to open 2/3S. But over the dbl, will make a preemptive jump in spades.

 

A dbl promises 3 cards in unbid majors. It is outdated to "dbl and bid your own suit" with a strong hand and shortness in the other major. Esp with a suit that is not self-sufficient.

[P_Marlowe]

If 2♣ is clear and the auction was:

 

(pass) - pass - (1♥) - 2♣

(x) --- pass -- (2♦) - ?

 

Do you have another bid?

I think you have to pass now

pass.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Cascade]

I wholeheartedly agree with Frances, with pass being a more standout action due to style (I rarely overcall 5 card minors unless decent hand).

And 20 points is not a decent hand for you?

[Echognome]

I wholeheartedly agree with Frances, with pass being a more standout action due to style (I rarely overcall 5 card minors unless decent hand).

And 20 points is not a decent hand for you?

You better make a mental note to respect Dwayne's overcalls. :)

 

On a side note, I played against a pair once who had the agreement that 1-level overcalls showed an opening hand and 2-level overcalls showed 15+ (i.e. better than a minimum opening hand). I told them how great it worked on the 1 hand in 24 boards it came up. In the meantime, we had simple uncontested auctions and jammed the heck out of them on their constructive bidding.

[barmar]

These days people get away with all kinds of crappy overcalls, because it tends to be hard for the opponents to make penalty doubles. Think about all the times you've prayed for partner to make a reopening double so you could convert it to penalty, but instead of doubling he rebids a suit. The more artificial doubles you have in your system, the more opportunity the opponents have to bid on junk and not get punished for it.

 

But not only is it hard to punish them, but you also end up going wrong in the play. It's great to study books like "How to Read Your Opponent's Cards", but if they bid randomly you're going to make wrong inferences. Which, of course, is why they do it -- making things easy for declarer is not high on their priority list. :)

[Cascade]

I wholeheartedly agree with Frances, with pass being a more standout action due to style (I rarely overcall 5 card minors unless decent hand).

And 20 points is not a decent hand for you?

You better make a mental note to respect Dwayne's overcalls. :P

This reminds of a hand against me where the bidding went 1♠ passed out making nine tricks.

 

At the end of the hand dummy said to declarer "did you have 25 hcp?"

 

Declarer picked his cards back out of the board looked at them and said "it appears I did"

 

Dummy replied "I'm going to sit up when you open 2♣"

[Fluffy]

I am afraid pass stops the bidding there, I would pass, someone's got to bid spades, if its parter we have found a game: 3NT.