cnszsun Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=sqjxxxxxhqxd109xxc]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦-(2♣)-?[/hv]What's your plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=sqjxxxxxhqxd109xxc]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦-(2♣)-?[/hv]What's your plan? 3s, no problem yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 3S. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 If you're playing WJS in comp then 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Either 3♠ Weak or 3♠ Fit Showing Jump are fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 With ♦10xxx I think 3♠ is wrong. You need so little from partner to make 4♠. And partner won't always raise. So 4♠ is my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 With my regular partner I'd start with 2♥ - transfer, and take it from there. If partner just accepts (denying a fit and other descriptive rebids), it's close between 3♦ and 3♠. I'd probably rebid 3♦, our known 9+ fit. This is mildly invitational, and partner should have some chance to evaluate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 4S, time to jam the pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 4♠, wtp? (i never post wtp but this one cries out for it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 4S, time to jam the pot. Just as in the Milne books, making a habit of doing this with soft 5 counts is going to end up with you having jam all over your paws and face, greedy Pooh....not to mention the times that "the bees" work out to sting you. You are Red. You have =0= controls. pd only promises 2-4 of them with a typical 1bid. pd could even have :P =♣= values! Bidding 4♠ on this hand is simply not partnership Bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I predict a unanimous vote for 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I predict a unanimous vote for 4♠. ??? 7 of the posts in this thread so far have voted against 4♠. Some have even voted against bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I'll stick with my prediction, thank you. Those 7 posters might still come to senses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 For those who are bidding 3♠ as a fit-showing jump, what is your definition of the right hand for that call? Is it simply a fit, plus a bunch of this suit I'm now bidding? Is it showing a concentration of values, whatever values you may or may not have? Is it focusing the second suit as the necessary fit (swan here) or the first and the probable? Is the call used for slam auctions, competitive, and preemptive all at the same time? Are there any minimum honor contribution expectations? For those bidding 4♠, is this bid also undefined? Is there some theory that somehow the opposition decision after 4♠ will never possibly lead to partner having his own 5-level decision (see Justin's similar problem from earlier -- Vegas)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Why is no one bidding TWO ♠? Its either that or pass... Bidding 4♠ now stops you from finding 6 of something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Why is no one bidding TWO ♠? Because the hand isn't strong enough. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 2 ♠ this hand is much much better then the one Justins Pd held in Vegas, so how can this be wrong?Besides the fact that Justin himself bids 4 of course? Maybe the hand is too good for a NFB for him? Actually my hand is good enough for 2 Spade. If pd bids any silly bids like penalty doubles, 3 NT or the like, I will correct his descission. Only other choice is 4 Spade, but I would like to play 5 Diamond opposite x,Kxx,AKQJxx,xxx, and I guess that I will never reach a Diamond contract after a 4 Spade bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 2♠ promises defensive values I lack of. If partner opened 1♣ I'd pass or bid 3♠, but after 1♦ it has to be 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I predict a unanimous vote for 4♠. QJ65432 isn't good enough to blast 4♠ on my own IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Bidding 4♠ on this hand is simply not partnership Bridge. Oh no foo, we may not be partners any time soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Why is no one bidding TWO ♠? Its either that or pass... Bidding 4♠ now stops you from finding 6 of something. I usually play negative free bids so 2♠ is not forcing. But this hand offers good play for 4♠ opposite some sub-minimum openings e.g. KxxxxAKxxxxxx My experience is that hands with two significant features - here seven spades and four-card support for partner - are difficult to bid accurately. I'm an optimist so I am going to bid the most likely game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 :) 4♠ seems clear with 10xxx in ♦. Slam is too remote. You need the 'perfect' 19 HCP - nothing wasted in ♣. "Never buy gold on the end of the world" - anon. "Never try for slam if you need the 'magic' hand" - the world's greatest bridge player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 2S really shows a different hand than this in my opinion. 3S as fit jump is gross. So what's the alternative to 4S, pass? 4S can win in several ways, as it can make or make them misguess. Partner will not expect a much stronger hand than this as we would have bid 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 2S really shows a different hand than this in my opinion. 3S as fit jump is gross. So what's the alternative to 4S, pass? I suppose the 3S bidders were assuming a WJS. Nobody except (name deleted) suggested 3S if it's a fit jump. 3S WJS is just an underbid, not gross I would say :) Why is no one bidding TWO ♠? Its either that or pass... Bidding 4♠ now stops you from finding 6 of something.Bidding 2♠ forcing now will enable you to find many 6-something down one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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