pclayton Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=sxxha6xdxckj8xxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] You open 3♣ in 2nd. 3♦ on left, 3N on right. Your lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 You had ♥A86, and I would lead small ♥... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 low club for me, but i'm a notoriously poor leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I would lead a club but since the person who apparently has seen the hand leads a heart, hmmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I would lead a club but since the person who apparently has seen the hand leads a heart, hmmmm.... Sorry for being honest :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Since the gig is up, I think that I'm free to argue anything now, right? Clearly, the correct lead is the club King. I'm playing for partner to have the stiff Queen, which seems logical for his pass. Dummy, who has a long diamond suit, seems favorite to have the 109 tight in clubs. That leaves Declarer with A7x. Otherwise, why would the club 8 be featured as a key card and leading the club King an option? I expect the opponents to eventually win the club, run six diamonds for seven tricks, and then have an eighth trick from the spade Ace before I get in with my heart or partner with his spade King to lead a heart. Brutal hand. But, you have to find those obvious leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I don't have strong opinions on heart vs club, at trump contract club would be off (underleading a tenace from a suit partner failed to raise is normally poor), now its not that clear, but I voted for a heart anway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Hi, Low club, anything else is just guessing.If you want to hit partners suit attack spades,but what good will it do to you? Partner will have two entries (and he will stop diamondselse, we have no chance at all), give him two clubs(not needing the Queen) and we have establishedclubs after trick 4 or 5. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I'll lead a club. If I don't and pard happens to have the ♣Q and they need a heart trick, I'll feel really bad :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I led a low heart. My reasoning was that for the heart to work, pard only needed a decent 5 card suit and an entry. Here's the entire hand: [hv=n=skqjxxhkt9xdxxctx&w=sat9xhjxdaqtxxxca&e=s8xhqxxxdkjxxcqxx&s=sxxha86dxckj8xxxx]399|300|[/hv] A low heart presents declarer with his 9th trick, as pard ducked. Doesn't even help pard to rise and shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Clearly, the correct lead is the club King. Can I laugh about it now? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Clearly, the correct lead is the club King. Can I laugh about it now? :P I voted small club, but I got suckered by the option and 8-spot into buying it. LOL As to the heart lead and switch -- so what? He rises with the heart King and switches to a club. The Ace wins. A second heart throws you in, and you cannot do anything useful with the clubs. Strangely, though, you can recover if you lead the heart Ace and switch to a small club. Back to jdonn -- notice, though, how the club King actually avoids an overtrick problem. Partner hops heart King (trusting) and lead the club 10 back, which you overtake, clearing the suit. So, that lead actually works as well as a small heart! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Clearly, the correct lead is the club King. Can I laugh about it now? :P I voted small club, but I got suckered by the option and 8-spot into buying it. LOL As to the heart lead and switch -- so what? He rises with the heart King and switches to a club. The Ace wins. A second heart throws you in, and you cannot do anything useful with the clubs. Strangely, though, you can recover if you lead the heart Ace and switch to a small club. Back to jdonn -- notice, though, how the club King actually avoids an overtrick problem. Partner hops heart King (trusting) and lead the club 10 back, which you overtake, clearing the suit. So, that lead actually works as well as a small heart! LOL Well if I can't laugh about that at least I can laugh you said 'the gig is up' instead of the JIG is up! Come on gimme something to work with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 easts 3N bid sucks...he must have seen you lead before :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Clearly, the correct lead is the club King. Can I laugh about it now? :P I voted small club, but I got suckered by the option and 8-spot into buying it. LOL As to the heart lead and switch -- so what? He rises with the heart King and switches to a club. The Ace wins. A second heart throws you in, and you cannot do anything useful with the clubs. Strangely, though, you can recover if you lead the heart Ace and switch to a small club. Back to jdonn -- notice, though, how the club King actually avoids an overtrick problem. Partner hops heart King (trusting) and lead the club 10 back, which you overtake, clearing the suit. So, that lead actually works as well as a small heart! LOL Well if I can't laugh about that at least I can laugh you said 'the gig is up' instead of the JIG is up! Come on gimme something to work with! You still don't get it. Sure, I might have also said that the "jig" is up. However, that was not my meaning. What I meant was that the "gig" was up. We were all frogs, waiting innocently on the BBF shore for a nice little fly of a lead problem to catch. However, the lure of the club 8 and the king option in that poll was like a light that was blinding me. The "gig" was "up" above our heads, ready to strike us, if we continued to focus on that option and that pip. However, I saw the "gig" in the brief flash of light that free provided, thereby knowing that I should jump away, little froggie, from that alluring fly. Or, maybe I just spelled jig wrong. You guess. LOLOLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 As a complete aside, I thought it was interesting to see that typo as I thought about the terms jig and gig and could only think of the definitions of a lure (jig) and a music event or booking (gig). Looking up the definition of gig, however, yielded quite a few definitions (paranthesis are my own comments): Gig1. something that whirls or is whirled (as in a whirligig)2. a 3-digit selection in a numbers game (has anyone heard of this game?)3. a person of odd or grotesque appearance (has anyone heard of this insult?)4. a rowboat designed for speed rather than work (what work is done on a rowboat?)5. a light 2-wheeled one-horse carriage6. a pronged spear for catching fish7. an arrangement of hooks to be drawn through a school of fish in order to hook their bodies8. a job usually for a specified time (this is the common definition I knew)9. a military demerit10. a gigabyte (another common definition) Who knew the word was so versatile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 For catching fish??? I've never heard of "fish gigging." But, frog gigging is something I actually have done many times. Any other proficient frog giggers out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I have no clue at all what frog gigging is, yet I'm still not the least bit surprised that you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I have no clue at all what frog gigging is, yet I'm still not the least bit surprised that you do it. It has been quite a long while. Frog gigging is a method of hunting frogs. Not sure really why one wants to hunt frogs, but apparently I used to believe that fried frog legs, especially wild ones, were a delicacy and not just disgusting. Anyway, you need some equipment, if you are interested in this exciting hobby. I would suggest boots, as you will be trudging along the banks of ponds or slow-moving streams. You also need a flashlight, first to find the frogs and then to blind the frogs into a stupor, unless you gig during the day, of course, for the challenge. You also will need a gig, which is a tiny little trident (maybe 2" X 4") attached to a long pole. You then trudge the waterside, looking for tasty little frogs. When you see one, you dazzle it with the light at the end of its personal tunnel, and then stab the sucker. Later, you remove the legs and toss them into a skillet with hot oil, possibly breaded if you prefer. The frog legs have a tendency to "hop around" in the skillet as the legs twitch. That, of course, is part of the enjoyment of wild frog gigging. Then, sit back with a beer and enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 And i thought cow tipping was fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 If I remember correct, leading ♥A can still defeat the contract according to GIB. Didn't check how exactly, I guess a ♣ shift, partner will get on lead and play through ♣Q... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 If I remember correct, leading ♥A can still defeat the contract according to GIB. Didn't check how exactly... just shift to a club at trick 2 and declarer has only 8 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 If I remember correct, leading ♥A can still defeat the contract according to GIB. Didn't check how exactly... just shift to a club at trick 2 and declarer has only 8 tricks. Lol yeah, was editing my post :P I'm just out of bed you know... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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