goobers Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 [hv=d=s&n=sqxxxhxdxxxcak8xx&s=sxhaxdakqxxxcq9xx]133|200|[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Probably 1D-1S-2C-3C-5C (though 3NT is a possibility at matchpoints), leaving the 24 point slam on the table. I'm sure there will be posters who find it :P Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) Hi, 1D (1) - 1S (2)2C (3) - 3C (4) 3H (5) - 3NT (6) (1) normal for Standard American(2) to weak for 2C(3) normal for Standard American(4) inv., 5C is a long way, and 4C would be a huge overbid(5) showing a stopper, the alternative being 5C(6) what else? With kind regardsMarlowe PS: Added later - 3H is 4th suit, and does not promisea stopper, i.e. the auction is ... Edited June 22, 2007 by P_Marlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goobers Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Okay, now I don't feel so bad about my 3NT. At least we deflected a spade lead and I took 12 tricks in NT... (I should check the score and see what other people did) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 A Precision auction starting with 1♣-2♣ should pave the way. But opps will probably interfere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 As an artificial exercise, easy: 1D - 1S2C(1) - 3C3D(2) - 4H(3)6C(4) (1) But I bet if you simply gave the South hand as a rebid problem on the forum you'd find a load of 3D rebidders (not I) (2) Where you live. Shows a 6-4 game try. (3) Splinter. North is absolutely huge opposite a 6-4 which such great trumps. (4) OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 1♦ - 1♠2♣ - 3♣3♦ - 4♥4♠ - 6♣ I'd bid like Frances up to 4♥, but I think 6♣ from opener is a little too much over the splinter. After the 4♠ cuebid, responder has an easy 6♣ IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 1♦-1♠2♣-3♣3♦-4♥(splinter)4♠(RKCB for clubs)-5♦(two without)6♣. Responder has a really strong hand for 3♣.After 3♦, he really must splinter here. This is way too much for a passive approach, IMO. It would be nice to have the Kxxx in spades, but that would be too much for 3♣. With that, I'd bid the 4♥ directly after 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I had come up with the same auction as Frances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 As an artificial exercise, easy: 1D - 1S2C(1) - 3C3D(2) - 4H(3)6C(4) (1) But I bet if you simply gave the South hand as a rebid problem on the forum you'd find a load of 3D rebidders (not I) (2) Where you live. Shows a 6-4 game try. (3) Splinter. North is absolutely huge opposite a 6-4 which such great trumps. (4) OK Seems perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 1♦ - 1♠2♣ - 3♣3♦ - 4♥4♠ - 6♣ I'd bid like Frances up to 4♥, but I think 6♣ from opener is a little too much over the splinter. After the 4♠ cuebid, responder has an easy 6♣ IMO. There is no need to bid 4♠ unless you have the agreement that it's RKKC, and you don't since you want responder to bid 6♣ next. 4♥ is not only a splinter but it also shows a huge club fit in context of the limited 3♣ raise earlier. I'll go along with Frances' auction. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goobers Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Awesome, thanks everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I'd be a bit more aggressive with the South hand: 1♦ 1♠3♣ Then responder has an obvious 4♣ bid and slam should be a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 1♦-1♠3♦-5♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Hi, the only probelem I have with Frances approach is, that I believe 3D can be passed. I am not 100% sure how the interpret Frances comment regarding the 3D bid by opener:"Where you live. Shows a 6-4 game try." I think 3D is a whole lot better than 3H, but only if itis game forcing, and I am not 100% sure about that, but if I think about it longer, it has to. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I don't think 3D is game forcing, but it seems like a descriptive bid, and is likely to be this sort of values. 3H is murky, it may be a more balanced hand, it may result in playing 3NT with no spade stop... if partner bids 3H over 3D we can bid 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 [double post] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Dealer: South Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ Qxxx ♥ x ♦ xxx ♣ AK8xx ♠ x ♥ Ax ♦ AKQxxx ♣ Q9xx 1♦ - 1♠2♣ - 2NT3♣ - 3NT4♣ - 4♠6♣ 2♣ is new minor forcing by opener (see inquiry2over1 blog)2NT is signoff attempt in clubs, or game try in suit above clubs, or slam try in clubs3♣ is to accept signoff if that is the intent. Could bid 3♦ if short in clubs and long in diamonds3NT is milder of the slam try in clubs4♣ is minorwood4♠ two keys no trump queen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I like Frances' auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I don't think 3D is game forcing, but it seems like a descriptive bid, and is likely to be this sort of values. 3H is murky, it may be a more balanced hand, it may result in playing 3NT with no spade stop... if partner bids 3H over 3D we can bid 3NT. Since after 3C I would force to game, I would not want to make a bid which partner can pass, ... as I said, youcan convice me easiliy that 3D is forcing, but I was not sure, that's why I choose 3H, ... which was an error,as I now realize, since it does not show a heart stopper,it asks for one. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 <!-- NORTHSOUTH begin --><table border=1> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td>Dealer:</td> <td> South </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Vul:</td> <td> ???? </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Scoring:</td> <td> Unknown </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table border='1'> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> Qxxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> x </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> xxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> AK8xx </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> x </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> Ax </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> AKQxxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> Q9xx </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- NORTHSOUTH end -->1♦ - 1♠2♣ - 2NT3♣ - 3NT4♣ - 4♠6♣ 2♣ is new minor forcing by opener (see inquiry2over1 blog)2NT is signoff attempt in clubs, or game try in suit above clubs, or slam try in clubs3♣ is to accept signoff if that is the intent. Could bid 3♦ if short in clubs and long in diamonds3NT is milder of the slam try in clubs4♣ is minorwood4♠ two keys no trump queen So you are playing in 6C opposite AKJxKxJxxKxxx ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 There's no way partner can pass 3D after 1D-1M-2C-3C-3D. If we had a minimum hand we would pass 3C. Since we are bidding over 3C, we are showing extra values and enough to at least try for game opposite partners raise. We are not in a GAME force but we're certainly in a force as our game try could be a slam try or a game force unclear what the best game is, etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 There's no way partner can pass 3D after 1D-1M-2C-3C-3D. If we had a minimum hand we would pass 3C. Since we are bidding over 3C, we are showing extra values and enough to at least try for game opposite partners raise. We are not in a GAME force but we're certainly in a force as our game try could be a slam try or a game force unclear what the best game is, etc etc. Second that. Whereas 1♦...2♣...3♣ is passable after a courtesy correction, IMO, 3♦ is not passable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Whereas 1♦...2♣...3♣ is passable after a courtesy correction Right, the key differences being A) the courtesy correction did not establish a fit (it could easily be 2-3 in the minors) and B) the courtesy correction did not show values above the minimum, so if opener is maximum for 2C and responder is minimum for his auction there doesn't have to be a game. In the given auction a fit is established and responder has shown more than minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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