skjaeran Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 1. Agree with 1♥. Very hard to reach slam after 4♥ opening if partner lacks a ♠ control. 2. 2♥. I won't rebid 2♣, since I'd not be happy if I'm dropped there. And 2♣ 2♠ 3♥ sounds stronger than this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 4♥ with AK and a void is a bit awkward, so yes I agree with 1♥. I knew this was going to happen, now I bid... 3♥. It is unlikely that ♣ is the right strain and I really have a good hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 btw prefer to open this hand 4H. LOL. Mike, you're having one of those *other* days, aren't you? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I open 1♥ and rebid 2♥. 1♠ of partner didn't improve my hand. With 2♥ it is clearer for partner that I'm weak then with 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I rebid 2♣. I do believe in the sequence of ♥/♣/more ♥s as extra values. It does have some benefits on a small number of hands. Thus 1♥ 1♠ 2♥ 2N 3♣ shows weakness with 6=4. This offers a chance to avoid a hopeless 2N, albeit at the risk of finding a hopeless 3♣ or 3♥ :P While we may be unhappy playing 2♣, we are, I think, slightly better off should he bid again, and he will usually bid again. An immediate 3♥ is a mis-description of the hand.. especially the suit texture. 4♥ also shows a different hand.. certainly not a void spade and topless trump. 2♥ is the obvious alternative, but it is more likely to result in a missed game than is 2♣. Summing up: 2♣ risks playing a silly partial, but 2♥ risks missing a decent game. Neither bid is LIKELY to result in either bad result, so I wouldn't get worked up other this choice (except that the hand has been posted, so I assume one or the other worked poorly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 (except that the hand has been posted, so I assume one or the other worked poorly) Every time I post a hand I get a comment like this, I don't really know why. Am I that results oriented? Whether you open 4H, open 1H and rebid 4H, open 1H and rebid 2H, open 1H and rebid 3H, or open 1H and rebid 2C you will get to 4H. Your bid doesn't matter at all. I just held this hand and had no idea wtf to do with it so thought I would post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I guess it's minority but I would rebid 3♥, no reason to rebid 4 since if pard passes 3 we must be high enough, but if I rebid 2♥ I could miss a game. I would never rebid a 4 card club suit holding these hearts, ever, unless 2♣ was forcing. I really don't think opening 4 is so bad though I would never do it. These sorts of things gain a lot of random swings even when you don't have the hand you are supposed to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 (except that the hand has been posted, so I assume one or the other worked poorly) Every time I post a hand I get a comment like this, I don't really know why. Am I that results oriented? Whether you open 4H, open 1H and rebid 4H, open 1H and rebid 2H, open 1H and rebid 3H, or open 1H and rebid 2C you will get to 4H. Your bid doesn't matter at all. I just held this hand and had no idea wtf to do with it so thought I would post it.Sorry, I didn't mean it that way. My take on this is that it is a normal human characteristic to remember, and relive, events where our difficult decision made a difference, either way. Some people tend to stress their triumphs, others their disasters and many talk about both. But most seem to not spend as much time discussing events in which their decision, no matter how tough it seemed, turned out to be irrelevant to the outcome. You are to be commended for a no :P n-results-oriented post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Yeah well my thoughts on this hand were kinda like.... well 4H can work but it's second seat so it's not a great gamble and we're red/red. Maybe first seat I'd go for it. Afterall 4H 4S X would be sweet, but 4H p p p +3 wouldn't lol. Anyways I went 1H and it went p 1S p ? and now I had really good playing strength so I wanted to go 3H to avoid missing some games but really partner rates to have some spade wastage and we will get to a lot of bad games too with 3H and we may get to bad slams. On the other hand 2H seemed like a big underbid on playing strength (as in I can make it opposite a 0 count, thats unusual). 2C, as I said earlier in this post, didn't seem to have much upside to me. If you are going to drive to 3H it makes more sense to me to just bid it immediately as your suit is certainly adequate, and 2C then 3H over 2H doesn't show a 2.5H bid to me, it just shows a hand that wasn't suitable for 3H to begin with (suit not good enough, too much chance we belong in clubs, etc). I would take that sequence with x KQxxxx Ax AKxx always and that certainly isn't a 2.5H bid. And there is a lot of downside to 2C in my opinion, the only upside being partner evaluating his club holding better which doesn't seem critical with this hand type (since his diamond values are also good). Anyways, in the end I opted to go 1H-2H the spade void being the deciding factor. Eddie Wold opened 4H at the other table. I got votes for pretty much everything when I asked my teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 husband rebid 3H when I gave him the hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 2♣, followed by 4♥. Is pard the same looney as the 3 other hands?... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 ♠ - ♥ Q J T 9 x x x ♦ Q x ♣ A K x x You open 1H 2nd seat red/red, partner bids 1S. Q1: Do you agree with 1H?Q2: What do you do now? IMO...1. 1 ♥ = 10, 4 ♥ = 6.2. 2 ♣ = 10, 2 ♥ = 6, 3 ♥ = 2, 4 ♥ = 1. IMO You would not be too happy if partner passed 2 ♥ but you should be wary of leaping about with a void in partner's suit. Hence 2 ♣ is a sensible compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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