kgr Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 MP's; West/None Vul(3♦)-4♠-(5♦)-??xxx-Kxxxx-Kx-QxxDBL, 5♠, Pass? (I guess pass can't be forcing here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggygork Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Double. They got me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Pass. Take away the King of diamonds, and whatdo you have, not even the stuff partner canexpect. And pass is nonforcing.It maybe different, if partner did bid 4S red vs. green,but not at green all. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 5♠. A jump to 4♠ should show a good hand. Something like AKJxxxx Ax x Kxx offersvery good play in 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 5♠. 4♠ shows a strong hand. If my minor suit lenghts were reversed I'd have absolutely no doubt about bidding. Now I'm not more than 85% sure it's correct to bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 5S. As others have said, 4S shows a great hand for declaring spades. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I'm a 5♠ bidder too. If it goes down, we'll have a chat about 4♠ actually shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I absolutely think pass should be forcing here, which would make this an obvious pass. And I'm someone who rarely thinks passes should be forcing. Partner bid game to make, and even if they may be hoping to make their bid is almost always intended as a sacrifice. I should say if I knew pass wasn't forcing for my partnership I would bid 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I absolutely think pass should be forcing here, which would make this an obvious pass. And I'm someone who rarely thinks passes should be forcing. Partner bid game to make, and even if they may be hoping to make their bid is almost always intended as a sacrifice. I should say if I knew pass wasn't forcing for my partnership I would bid 5♠. 100% agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 5♠, I think pass should be played as forcing, but I don't have that agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Dbl, and I don't think pass should be forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I absolutely think pass should be forcing here, which would make this an obvious pass. And I'm someone who rarely thinks passes should be forcing. Partner bid game to make, and even if they may be hoping to make their bid is almost always intended as a sacrifice. I should say if I knew pass wasn't forcing for my partnership I would bid 5♠. I agree pass should be forcing here.But I have no intention to defend here, and I am not strong enough for pass-and-pull. So i stick to 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Thanks for the answers.5♠ seems to be the popular choice.I DBL'ed and 5♦ made.partner had 8card ♠: ♠AKQxxxxx and ♥Q.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Thanks for the answers.5♠ seems to be the popular choice.I DBL'ed and 5♦ made.partner had 8card ♠: ♠AKQxxxxx and ♥Q.. That's not even close to a 4♠ bid. You don't preempt over a preempt. He should have bid 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Thanks for the answers.5♠ seems to be the popular choice.I DBL'ed and 5♦ made.partner had 8card ♠: ♠AKQxxxxx and ♥Q.. That's not even close to a 4♠ bid. You don't preempt over a preempt. He should have bid 3♠. Well the bidder probably had more than that, else how was 5♠ making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Thanks for the answers.5♠ seems to be the popular choice.I DBL'ed and 5♦ made.partner had 8card ♠: ♠AKQxxxxx and ♥Q.. That's not even close to a 4♠ bid. You don't preempt over a preempt. He should have bid 3♠. This is a style issue, IMO the difference between 3♠ and 4♠ is only the lack or alternative contracts. Its not a preemptive, it is bid to make, but doesn't wanna defend nor play in another suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Thanks for the answers.5♠ seems to be the popular choice.I DBL'ed and 5♦ made.partner had 8card ♠: ♠AKQxxxxx and ♥Q.. That's not even close to a 4♠ bid. You don't preempt over a preempt. He should have bid 3♠. Well the bidder probably had more than that, else how was 5♠ making. He never said 5♠ made - 5♦x did make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted June 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Thanks for the answers.5♠ seems to be the popular choice.I DBL'ed and 5♦ made.partner had 8card ♠: ♠AKQxxxxx and ♥Q.. That's not even close to a 4♠ bid. You don't preempt over a preempt. He should have bid 3♠. Well the bidder probably had more than that, else how was 5♠ making. He never said 5♠ made - 5♦x did make. right; 5♠ didn't make, but was best contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Thanks for the answers.5♠ seems to be the popular choice.I DBL'ed and 5♦ made.partner had 8card ♠: ♠AKQxxxxx and ♥Q.. That's not even close to a 4♠ bid. You don't preempt over a preempt. He should have bid 3♠. Depends, I think 4S is fine, you have 8 tricksand the Queen of hearts (1/4 - 1/2)-trick,you can expect partner to hold 10HCP (half of themissing deck), i.e. you have a fair chance that4S is making, I would bid 4S every day. Partner will never play you for such a hand andraise you with 2 tricks, because he has no fit. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: I would even bid 4S without the Q of hearts, I simplyrepeat, you have barely what partner can expect on average,he can count on you to have 7HCP, and he will factor thisexpections in his bids in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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