bid_em_up Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=saxxhkqxdacaq10xxx]133|100|Scoring: IMPOpps silent. 1♣-1♠-?[/hv] Your bid? If anything above 3N, just check other and explain. I couldn't think of any plausible bids higher than 3N, so they are not included in the poll. System is 2/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 This is a rough one. If the auction has started 1♣ - (1♠) - ??? then I am cue bidding 2♠. my only question is whether we are playing 6♣ or 7♣ and I want room to cue bid. If I opened and partner responded 1♠, then I am going to rebid 2NT. I (slightly) prefer this to 3♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 2S No alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 It is completely unclear to me whether it is 1♣ by partner 1♠ overcall, or 1♣ by me 1♠ by partner. In the first case 2♠ in the second 2♥, and in both I think the bid is easy, obvious, and will lead to no problems at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 It is completely unclear to me whether it is 1♣ by partner 1♠ overcall, or 1♣ by me 1♠ by partner. In the first case 2♠ in the second 2♥, and in both I think the bid is easy, obvious, and will lead to no problems at all. Good point - I assumed 1S overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted June 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Opps silent usually means the opponents haven't bid. B) So it is 1C p 1S p ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Yes now I see B) I think it's easier to just put the passes in the auction as proven by me not being the only one fooled, but mea culpa. I think for an experienced player there is not even a logical alternative to 2♥. If partner raises he must have 5 spades and you can bid 3♠, if he does anything else you usually bid 3♠ next anyway and are very well placed. Nothing else even comes close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 I second Josh's comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Unanimous 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 2H The current concept, in this position, you are not showing 4+ suit. It's a bit like transfers, once you think about it, it becomes standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 2H The current concept, in this position, you are not showing 4+ suit. It's a bit like transfers, once you think about it, it becomes standard. Well this isn't right. It does show four hearts. If partner tries to raise them, you will bid spades and partner should understand what's going on. I wouldn't make this bid opposite someone who is just going to keep putting me back in hearts if he has 4 no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 2H The current concept, in this position, you are not showing 4+ suit. It's a bit like transfers, once you think about it, it becomes standard. Well this isn't right. It does show four hearts. If partner tries to raise them, you will bid spades and partner should understand what's going on. I wouldn't make this bid opposite someone who is just going to keep putting me back in hearts if he has 4 no matter what. Would you play transfers with someone who didn't understand them? It's no use saying 'it shows four but then it doesn't'. IMO in the modern game 2H does not show four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Ugly problem, I guess you are stuck rebidding 2H. I do think opening 2nt with this hand is possible for those that hate to reverse or j/s into fake 3 or 2 card suits. If you play 1nt=16-18 then 1c=1s=2nt(19-20) seems ok. a reverse shows 4H come on guys even in the modern game and partner should think you have 4H. The fact that you do not does not bar the bid, you just choose what you prefer, opening 2nt or reverse into a 3 card heart suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 I strongly dislike faking a reverse and absolutely never fake a jump rebid. But there's no other plausible alternative than reversing with 2♥ this time. On this hand it's no problem, since I can always support partner's ♠'s next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 This is an easy hand. 2♥. ♠ Axx ♥ K ♦ AQ ♣ AQ10xxxx This is much more difficult, but I will go for 2♦. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 This is an easy hand. 2♥. ♠ Axx ♥ K ♦ AQ ♣ AQ10xxxx This is much more difficult, but I will go for 2♦. Roland Call me a sick, sick bastard, but I might open that hand with 2NT. Although so many people these days bypass four ♦ to respond in their four-card suit in ♠, that I would probably survive by opening 1♣ and return to spades after my reverse in diamonds gets raised. Hooray for fake reverses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 2NT (GF) is an alternative, but even I don't think this is the hand for it, 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 2H. If I had to explain what 2H shows, I would say"In theory at least 4 hearts but might be a strong hand with a heart fragment and no other suitable forcing bid" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Yes now I see B) I think it's easier to just put the passes in the auction as proven by me not being the only one fooled, but mea culpa. I think for an experienced player there is not even a logical alternative to 2♥. If partner raises he must have 5 spades and you can bid 3♠, if he does anything else you usually bid 3♠ next anyway and are very well placed. Nothing else even comes close. me to, thats why I voted for 2S.Opps sielent is clear, but ... With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Having correctly understood the auction ...I go with 3C, a slight underbid. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 2h is the nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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