They bid over your nt.

[mike777]

Assume 1nt is 14-16 or 15-17

 

1nt=(2nt)=?

 

Do you play stayman, smolen, tfr, system on or anything over this? IF so what?

[gwnn]

is this UNT? you can always use some sort of UVU over this. Whatever you play vs minor preemptive 2NT.

 

e.g.:

 

3♣=4♠, 5+♥

3♦=vice versa

3M=invitational (?)

3NT=obvious

4♣=good 4M bid possible slam interest

4♦=55 or better in majors

4M=s/o

[mikeh]

Oddly, considering the detail to which some of my systemic agreements delve, in only one partnership have I had a written agreement, which is:

 

x = balanced, 8+, invites defending, if later bid 3N, shows ♣ stop, denies ♦

3♣ stayman

3♦ transfer, at least invitational

3♥ transfer, at least invitational

3♠ transfer to 3N, promises a ♦ stopper, denies a ♣ stopper

3N to play, both minors stopped

 

4♣/♦ S.A. Texas (ie what we played absent an overcall), transfer to ♥/♠

 

The decision to bid 3N, rather than to play for penalty, will depend on extent of defence and relative vulnerability

 

I guess it is a sign of the relative infrequency of 2N that I do not ever recall, in that partnership, ever having to use this structure. I had to go back to the notes (we haven't played in years).

 

 

I discussed this with my current partner and he plays (but had not so far shared this with me, so thx for the post):

 

double invites penalty

3♣ stayman

3♦/♥ transfer

3♠ puppet to 3N, expressing doubt

3N to play, no doubt

 

Frankly, I prefer the 1st method, and I will now try to get cp (current partner) to agree :)

[bhall]

Depends on what 2N shows. Some Hamilton/Cappaleti players use 2N for any big 2-suiter. Some Suction players use it for the rounded suits, others for ♣ or (♦+♥).

 

First case (minors): 3♣ is Stayman

3♦ is an invitational+ transfer to ♥

3♥ is an invitational+ transfer to ♠

3♠ is a competitive bid in ♠

3N is to play

X is a balanced invitational hand or pure penalty

P is all the rest, including the competitive bid in ♥

 

Second case (any two suits): X is a balanced invitational+ hand

3♣, ♦, ♥ is an invitational+ transfer

3♠ is a transfer to 3N or 4♣

P includes competitive hands in any suit

 

Third case (♣+♥): X is a balanced invitational+ hand or pure penalty

3♣ is a transfer to ♦, weak or strong

3♦ is invitational with 5+ ♦

3♥ is a transfer to ♠, weak or strong

3♠ is invitational with 5+ ♠

 

Fourth case (♣ or Reds): X is a balanced invitational+ hand

3♣, ♦, ♥ is an invitational+ transfer

3♠ is a transfer to 3N or 4♣