pclayton Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=sxxxxhxdqj9xxxcqx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] LHO opens 1♣ and pard makes a 1♦ overcall. RHO tries a negative double. Your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 5♦. If I bid 4 I am just transferring to their 4♥. Might also make on a good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 4♦: yes, this may be a transfer to their 4♥, but unless RHO is a 1♥ bidder on 4=5 in the majors (and not everyone is), partner holds 4♥s and will be well placed to either double or bid 5♦, when either seems clear. 4♦ sends the message that I have a LOT of support, shape and not a good hand. He can hammer them with 4 good hearts and some other defence, or can bid 5♦ 'knowing' that I have short ♥s. If RHO would double with 4=5, then the problem is tougher, but it is usually difficult to ethically ask these questions at the table, without screens. If I could ask, and learned that RHO may have 4=5, I think I'd chance 5♦.... the decision is that close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Talked me into 4♦. We could miss a 500 sac, but we won't miss a 200 sac or a make and we will miss any 800 sac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 My Qx of clubs steers me to 4D rather than 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 5 because of the 4-1M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 My Qx of clubs steers me to 4D rather than 5 I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchett Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I'd probably bid 4♦ at the table but it's hard to object to 5♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 4d.tough one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 2H fit jump is not available?hmmmm1H, natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 4d.tough one. I chose 4♦. I do not object to 5♦. However, either way, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. You pick a number of diamonds and stick with it. It's not that painful a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 If I don't bid 5♦ with this one, I never will. I find it hard to believe we can set 4M, so seriously, what's wrong with 5♦? I guess you could try some save-suggesting 3NT bid, but really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 If I don't bid 5♦ with this one, I never will. I find it hard to believe we can set 4M, so seriously, what's wrong with 5♦? It doesn't involve partner. But other than that, I don't have any serious objections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 And 4♦ involves him, by any chance? It contributes nothing but to convey a distorted message of your playing strength... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 And 4♦ involves him, by any chance? It contributes nothing but to convey a distorted message of your playing strength... The opponents haven't even bid 4M yet! It seems that we might be phantoming too large a percentage of the time if we bid 5♦. I think you are overestimating your playing strength when we still know very little from the auction. Again, I don't strongly object to 5♦, but I do think it's an overbid. Your mileage may vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 A side note if it matters. We play overcall structure, so 1♦ will almost always deny a 4 card major. Not sure if that changes things for you or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 The opponents haven't even bid 4M yet! It seems that we might be phantoming too large a percentage of the time if we bid 5♦. I think you are overestimating your playing strength when we still know very little from the auction. Again, I don't strongly object to 5D, but I do think it's an overbid. Your mileage may vary. Ditto. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 A side note if it matters. We play overcall structure, so 1♦ will almost always deny a 4 card major. Not sure if that changes things for you or not. In this case 4 Diamond is out. We won´t set them.Else I would prefer 4 to five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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