bid_em_up Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 The setting: Imp TeamsRandom Teammates and opponentsFairly new partnership (you've played probably 50 boards together) Not vul. vs. Vul1st seat You get dealt: [hv=s=saj97xxhdcqj1098xx]133|100|[/hv] How do you intend to bid this freak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 i'll pass for now if p opens either of my suits, i'll start sniffing about slam if p overcalls either of my suits, i'll jump to game if opps begin bidding and my p is silent, i'll re-enter with 5♣ hoping to make it doubled against their 4♥ game Edit: sorry, just now noticed you said IMPs - I may very well just open this 1♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 pass and bid 4NT later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 2♣ in Precision, rebid of 4♠ on my first opportunity. Somebody gave the identical hand before, but 5-1-0-7 instead of 6-0-0-7. I'm no Zar fanatic, but that looks like an opening to me. In SA...um, 2♠. Not a lot of other choices here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I hope we did agree on a basis system? Pass, and see what develops. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 1♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 1S, and keep rebidding clubs. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted June 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I hope we did agree on a basis system? Pass, and see what develops. With kind regardsMarlowe Sorry, Basic system is 2/1, sound(ish) openings agreed for 1st/2nd seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 I'll open 1♣ and bid ♠'s an appropriate number of times..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 The setting: Imp TeamsRandom Teammates and opponentsFairly new partnership (you've played probably 50 boards together) Not vul. vs. Vul1st seat You get dealt: [hv=s=saj97xxhdcqj1098xx]133|100|[/hv] How do you intend to bid this freak? PassNo problem yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 pass, with 1♣ as second choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I'll open 1♣ and bid ♠'s an appropriate number of times..... so would I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 4♠. I have no idea what is right, but with two voids I'll expect that 4♠ dissuades partner from his own aspirations in the red suits. 4♠ also causes serious trouble for the opponents in assessing their aspirations in the red suits. I'll pay off to partner having four clubs and a stiff spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 4♠. I have no idea what is right, but with two voids I'll expect that 4♠ dissuades partner from his own aspirations in the red suits. 4♠ also causes serious trouble for the opponents in assessing their aspirations in the red suits. I'll pay off to partner having four clubs and a stiff spade. 4S? You'll also pay off to opps big when partner has a red 5-5 and you run out of trump to set up your clubs. ANY gambling bid will work if partner has the right hand, but 4S is unilateral/masterminding. Partner will raise to 6S (happened yesterday) on x Axxxx AKQx Ax 1C/1S/pass are my sane choices and either one could work. Although I usually hate to "back-in" to auctions, I vote for pass now and come in like gangbusters with a 2-suited bid later. Partner will have a good picture of this hand then. 1S is my second choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Pass. I will surely be able to describe both of my suits at my next call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted June 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Pass. I will surely be able to describe both of my suits at my next call. Really? Even if the opps don't bid? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted June 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Like what seems to be the majority, I also passed and as I hinted in the previous post, the auction proceeds: P P 1♥-P-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 ANY gambling bid will work if partner has the right hand, but 4S is unilateral/masterminding. Partner will raise to 6S (happened yesterday) on x Axxxx AKQx Ax I have just opened 4♠ white-on-red. This shows, as I understand things at IMPs, a bunch of spades and within four tricks of my bid (using 2-3-4 count), or within three tricks if conservative preempting. With a stronger hand, I'd open 4♦ Namyats (if used), 1♠, or 2♣. Partner has five covers, with a small stiff in spades. So, he expects that we will plausibly take my six (or seven) tricks, plus his five, for eleven or twelve tricks. So, he might consider slam if our style is conservative as to a 4♠ call. However, he should analyze this a step further. That stiff in spades does not help trump holdings like AQxxxxx at all. I will likely need a finesse to work, plus the right split. So, opposite a white-on-red 4♠ opening, partner better not raise to 6♠ with that hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Like what seems to be the majority, I also passed and as I hinted in the previous post, the auction proceeds: P P 1♥-P-? 1♠. What does a jump shift by a PH mean in your methods? I could see bidding 2♠ if you're playing strong JS by UPH and haven't discussed by PH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Worst scenario for a 1♠ opening. after 1♠-ps-2♥-ps I'd bid 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I'll pay off to partner having four clubs and a stiff spade. Uh, you're paying off to partner having a stiff spade and any amount of clubs :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted June 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Ok, I'll sum it up for now. Partner opens 1H, I chose to bid 2♣, picking the good 7 card suit before the broken 6 card suit. The auction continued: P-P-1H-P-2C-P-2D-p-2S-p-3D-p-3S-p-4S-? And righty can no longer contain himself holding, xx AQxxx AQ AKxx, he doubles. Partners hand: Kxx KJ10xx KJxxx void :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Ok, I'll sum it up for now. Partner opens 1H, I chose to bid 2♣, picking the good 7 card suit before the broken 6 card suit. The auction continued: P-P-1H-P-2C-P-2D-p-2S-p-3D-p-3S-p-4S-? And righty can no longer contain himself holding, xx AQxxx AQ AKxx, he doubles. Partners hand: Kxx KJ10xx KJxxx void :blink: Hmmm.....1nt overcall over 1H, then I can shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I don't see the benefit of doing anything other than opening 1♣ and keep on rebidding spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Teams. They vul. You deal: ♠ A J 9 7 x x ♥ - ♦ - ♣ Q J T 9 8 x x IMO P = 10, 1♣ = 6, 1♠ = 5.Pass then Michaels describes the hand well :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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