Chamaco Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Hi all, an italian expert (RIOLO937 on BBO) is writing an article to be published in Italy on some differences between SAYC (+conventions), 2/1 and some advanced version of italian 5-card major. He has asked me to inquire about the following problem: say you hold and open 1H and p responds 1 spades x-AKQxx -AKxx-xxx 1H:1S? 3D would be game force showing more than 16 HCP, and you do not want to force game opposite a minimum. 2D would be non-forcing. If pard has an average 7-8 count in misfit he will pass.Yet, it is easy to construct many 16-17 hcp hands that will be laydown 3NT even in misfit, but that do not justify a 3-level game force. SO, HERE IS THE QUESTION:IS THERE ANY CONVENTIONAL TREATMENT THAT ALLOWS TO DISCRIMINATE GAME FORCE REVERSE FROM MINIMUM REVERSES IN THIS CASE (e.g. 2NT Ingberman is not available) ? Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Hi all, an italian expert (RIOLO937 on BBO) is writing an article to be published in Italy on some differences between SAYC (+conventions), 2/1 and some advanced version of italian 5-card major. He has asked me to inquire about the following problem: say you hold and open 1H and p responds 1 spades x-AKQxx -AKxx-xxx 1H:1S? 3D would be game force showing more than 16 HCP, and you do not want to force game opposite a minimum. 2D would be non-forcing. If pard has an average 7-8 count in misfit he will pass.Yet, it is easy to construct many 16-17 hcp hands that will be laydown 3NT even in misfit, but that do not justify a 3-level game force. SO, HERE IS THE QUESTION:IS THERE ANY CONVENTIONAL TREATMENT THAT ALLOWS TO DISCRIMINATE GAME FORCE REVERSE FROM MINIMUM REVERSES IN THIS CASE (e.g. 2NT Ingberman is not available) ? Thanks all I am not familiar with any conventions that handle a problem like that. But playing 2/1 pd has to know that with bidding 2 http://mnet.bg/~mfn/d.gif pd still can have up to unbalanced 17 count. About any relay will get you to 3 level anyhow, or you ar taking away natural bids. If you have a fit, just raise. Without fit and other 2 suits bid NT if you have about 9 count. Sometimes you just have to rely on bridge instinct, cause you can't have a convention for everything :P Mike :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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