zzmiy Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=st9765hd4caqj9643]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Playing team match sitting on S what to open here? (Playing generally natural system with 2♦ - multy and 2♥,2♠ showing 2-suiters). And if playing 2♣ as precision is it worth opening 2♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Seems like your options are pass, 3C, and 4C. The textbook bid is certainly pass. Preempting can shut out your spade fit forever. But as hrothgar will tell you, bridge is a 4 handed game not a 2 handed game. I would usually open 4C but we're red/white so that's kind of scary, but opening 3C doesn't seem to do the hand justice. Maybe another reason to pass? As I don't think I can accurately describe the playing strength of this hand without placing myself at too much risk I think I would pass, but at the table I could see myself bidding 4C or 3C depending on various factors, it's really a close case. Passing is definitely not my normal style with this hand type. I would not open 2S, this hand is about clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 And if playing 2♣ as precision is it worth opening 2♣? I would open it 2♣ if playing Precision, as one of the possibilities is a good 6+ card club suit and a bad 5 card major. Provided I hadn't already been warned today about opening a 7 count with an 11-15 opening bid. Otherwise, I guess I'd pass. Ick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 despite the massive ZAR points I couldnt imagine opening this 2C. I guess opening bids have no standards now :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I would open 3♣, fully intending to bid 3♠ at my next turn if I got the chance. Any appropriate preempt seems reasonable, or a pass if preempting on these is not your bag baby. I really don't think it matters much, since everything works sometimes. Just pick a style that partner can count on and stick with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcauley Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 pass for me,esp if playing multi when 2♠ may include ♥ as 2nd suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I would open 3♣, fully intending to bid 3♠ at my next turn if I got the chance. Any appropriate preempt seems reasonable, or a pass if preempting on these is not your bag baby. I really don't think it matters much, since everything works sometimes. Just pick a style that partner can count on and stick with it. yes I agree I would bid 3S if I opened 3C but not 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I would open 3♣, fully intending to bid 3♠ at my next turn if I got the chance. Any appropriate preempt seems reasonable, or a pass if preempting on these is not your bag baby. I really don't think it matters much, since everything works sometimes. Just pick a style that partner can count on and stick with it. yes I agree I would bid 3S if I opened 3C but not 4S. Yeah I'm with you there, 3♣ then 4♠ is just too unilateral, 3♣ then 3♠ doesn't seem so bad to me since I could reasonably have opened 4♣ anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 3C. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Pass, no problem yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmiy Posted June 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Thanks for ur answers, lets proceed with this deal, actually I passed and auction went as follows: Full hand:[hv=d=s&v=n&n=saq83hat74daktct2&w=skj2hqj93dj9876c8&e=s4hk8652dq532ck75&s=st9765hd4caqj9643]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]South West North East pass pass 1NT 2♦4♠(??) 5♦ dbl passpass pass (2♦ - showed ♦ + ♥) +800 to NS. on the another table auction went faster :P South West North East4♣ pass 6♣ all pass Slam depends on 2 finesses and both passed +1390 to NS surely 4♠ was not the best option, could you comment on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Slam depends on 2 finesses and both passed +1390 to NS Slam depends on 2/3 fineses, wich normally is 50%, even a bit more cos you can protect agaisnt ♠KJ stiff behind when ♣K onside 4♠ is a big gamble, could had turned much worse (also better) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Seems like your options are pass, 3C, and 4C. The textbook bid is certainly pass. Preempting can shut out your spade fit forever. But as hrothgar will tell you, bridge is a 4 handed game not a 2 handed game. I would usually open 4C but we're red/white so that's kind of scary, but opening 3C doesn't seem to do the hand justice. Maybe another reason to pass? As I don't think I can accurately describe the playing strength of this hand without placing myself at too much risk I think I would pass, but at the table I could see myself bidding 4C or 3C depending on various factors, it's really a close case. Passing is definitely not my normal style with this hand type. I would not open 2S, this hand is about clubs. I would open it 4 or 5 at other colors, but I agree with this. Sometimes you have to pass at these colors and hope you can describe this later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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